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Delicious-Jax · 21st September, 2011

Hi everyone,
I have just read an article in a newspaper about a woman of 23 stones being refused Bariatric surgery.
I weigh 19.13 and am worried I will be turned down for any surgery when I see consultant at first appointment in 2 days time. What can I do ?

tink1974 · 21st September, 2011

Hi, N.Ireland is different from rest of UK, but from what I have read from others on here, each PCT has its own criteria. Normally I think it goes by your BMI plus any co-morbidities you have. I dont know if you are able to get confirmation of what the BMI threshold is for your PCT.
Hope your appt goes well x

Delicious-Jax · 21st September, 2011

My BMI is now 51.2...I would imagine that would defiitely meet any criteria. I do have co-morbities, so am praying to have a decision in my favour...just want my life back

tink1974 · 21st September, 2011

i will keep my fingers crossed for you. I know how life changing this operation can be. Let us know how you get on x

BrianT · 21st September, 2011

Hi Jax I came under the Croydon PCT and they use the NICE guidelines. For them a BMI over 50 was surgery as a first option 35 - 40 required some sort of weight manangement first and between 40 and 50 with Co-morbidities was also considered as high on the list for Surgery.
You can find your PCT's guidelines if you google your area and PCT Guidelines
Hope this helps and good luck

Delicious-Jax · 21st September, 2011

Thanks Brian, hope all goes well for you on Friday?

I come under Lewisham PCT, though have been referred from a consultant at Guy's to Mr.Botha at St.Thomas'...which is Lambeth?
Lewisham resorts to NICE guidelines criteria, which I am trying to find on the Internet.

TwinkleTwinkle · 21st September, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious-Jax

Thanks Brian, hope all goes well for you on Friday?

I come under Lewisham PCT, though have been referred from a consultant at Guy's to Mr.Botha at St.Thomas'...which is Lambeth?
Lewisham resorts to NICE guidelines criteria, which I am trying to find on the Internet.

Good Luck, Jax ... hope your PCT decides in your favour xxx

Delicious-Jax · 21st September, 2011

Thanks guys, will let you know as soon as I do...am excited and frightened at the same time...what a strange feeling !!!
Roll on Friday morning!

BrianT · 21st September, 2011

HI Jax if you didn't find the guidelines they are here
CG43 Obesity: NICE guideline

Good Luck Friday

Delicious-Jax · 22nd September, 2011

Thanks Brian, seems I do qualify..all depends on surgeons view of course.
Best of luck for tomorrow.....the first day of the rest of your life without a weight problem.

tink1974 · 22nd September, 2011

seems like u are over the bmi hurdle which knocks a lot of people out of the nhs wls process straight away unfortunately. Good luck with the surgeon x

lamornamiss · 22nd September, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious-Jax

Hi everyone,
I have just read an article in a newspaper about a woman of 23 stones being refused Bariatric surgery.
I weigh 19.13 and am worried I will be turned down for any surgery when I see consultant at first appointment in 2 days time. What can I do ?

I think this lady lives in Wales
I believe that Wales loathes funding WLS

Delicious-Jax · 22nd September, 2011

Thanks ladies...only hours , rather than days, to go now. I will know , this time tomorrow, what the decision will be. Unless you don't get told at this first appointment?!!

Delicious-Jax · 23rd September, 2011

Just needed to come on here before I go to the appointment!
Am very nervous...had to take a couple of Kalms this morning

Will let you know how I get on...wish me luck !!!

Caren · 23rd September, 2011

good luck Jax, thinking of you

x

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Delicious-Jax Member Delicious-Jax's Profile Albums Delicious-Jax's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th July, 2006 Location: South London Posts: 278 Thanks: 47 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Rep Power: 9 Consultant: Mr.Patel at The Princess Grace Hospital Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Gastric Sleeve Surgery Date: March 31st 2012 Height: 5' 3" Gender: Female Start Weight: 290lb Current Weight: 257lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 51.4 Current BMI: 45.5 Goal BMI: Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 33lb % Lost: 11.38% %EWL: 22.1%	Delicious-Jax..A diary of waiting for life to start again :) Hi everyone, I have just read an article in a newspaper about a woman of 23 stones being refused Bariatric surgery. I weigh 19.13 and am worried I will be turned down for any surgery when I see consultant at first appointment in 2 days time. What can I do ? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Jax

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tink1974 Likes to post tink1974's Profile Albums tink1974's Photo Gallery Join Date: 18th November, 2010 Location: co antrim Posts: 525 Thanks: 1 Thanked 74 Times in 73 Posts Rep Power: 144 Consultant: Mr Kumar @ Heartlands, Birmingham Funding: NHS Surgery Type: gastric bypass Surgery Date: 6th Januaru 2011 Height: 5' 6" Gender: Female Start Date: all my life Start Weight: 383lb Current Weight: 250lb Goal Weight: 182lb Goal Date: May 2012 BMI Information: Start BMI: 61.8 Current BMI: 40.3 Goal BMI: 29.4 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 133lb Weight to Lose: 68lb % Lost: 34.73% %EWL: 58.2%	Hi, N.Ireland is different from rest of UK, but from what I have read from others on here, each PCT has its own criteria. Normally I think it goes by your BMI plus any co-morbidities you have. I dont know if you are able to get confirmation of what the BMI threshold is for your PCT. Hope your appt goes well x Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Nutrition Facts For Foods Gastric Bypass 9th Dec 2010 at Heartlands Hospital delayed till 6th January 2011 Pre-op diet started Monday 22 Nov Started dieting at end of summer 2010 (start weight 27st 4 -lost a couple of stone but put some back on, so started pre-op in mid nov 2010 at 26 stone 1lb) Start weight on date of op 24st 1 Wk1 loss -9lbs (23st 6lbs) Wk 2 loss -5lbs (23st 1lb) wk 3 - stayed the same wk 4 - -6lbs (22st 9lb) Wk 5 - -5lbs (22st 4lb) 5 Stones off!!! yippee Wk 6 - -4lbs (22st) wk 7 - -2lbs (21st 12lbs) - cant remember when i was last in the 21's :-) wk 8 - stayed same wk 9 & 10 - -5lbs (21st 7) wks 11-13 -11lbs (20st 10lbs) - wks 14-16 -5lbs (20st 5lbs) wks 17-19 - -4lbs (20st 1lb) 101lbs off wk 20-28 - -13lbs (19st 2lb) cant remember what week now lol 14/8 - 18st 12 (lowest i have been since i was 18!) 11/10 - 18st 6 - started to wise up again!! 30/10 - 18st 3 5/11 - 18st 1 - cant wait till i'm in the 17's 16/11 - 17st 12 yippee - havent been this weight since i was 17 21/12 -17st 8lbs

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Delicious-Jax Member Delicious-Jax's Profile Albums Delicious-Jax's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th July, 2006 Location: South London Posts: 278 Thanks: 47 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Rep Power: 9 Consultant: Mr.Patel at The Princess Grace Hospital Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Gastric Sleeve Surgery Date: March 31st 2012 Height: 5' 3" Gender: Female Start Weight: 290lb Current Weight: 257lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 51.4 Current BMI: 45.5 Goal BMI: Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 33lb % Lost: 11.38% %EWL: 22.1%	My BMI is now 51.2...I would imagine that would defiitely meet any criteria. I do have co-morbities, so am praying to have a decision in my favour...just want my life back Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Jax

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tink1974 Likes to post tink1974's Profile Albums tink1974's Photo Gallery Join Date: 18th November, 2010 Location: co antrim Posts: 525 Thanks: 1 Thanked 74 Times in 73 Posts Rep Power: 144 Consultant: Mr Kumar @ Heartlands, Birmingham Funding: NHS Surgery Type: gastric bypass Surgery Date: 6th Januaru 2011 Height: 5' 6" Gender: Female Start Date: all my life Start Weight: 383lb Current Weight: 250lb Goal Weight: 182lb Goal Date: May 2012 BMI Information: Start BMI: 61.8 Current BMI: 40.3 Goal BMI: 29.4 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 133lb Weight to Lose: 68lb % Lost: 34.73% %EWL: 58.2%	i will keep my fingers crossed for you. I know how life changing this operation can be. Let us know how you get on x Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Nutrition Facts For Foods Gastric Bypass 9th Dec 2010 at Heartlands Hospital delayed till 6th January 2011 Pre-op diet started Monday 22 Nov Started dieting at end of summer 2010 (start weight 27st 4 -lost a couple of stone but put some back on, so started pre-op in mid nov 2010 at 26 stone 1lb) Start weight on date of op 24st 1 Wk1 loss -9lbs (23st 6lbs) Wk 2 loss -5lbs (23st 1lb) wk 3 - stayed the same wk 4 - -6lbs (22st 9lb) Wk 5 - -5lbs (22st 4lb) 5 Stones off!!! yippee Wk 6 - -4lbs (22st) wk 7 - -2lbs (21st 12lbs) - cant remember when i was last in the 21's :-) wk 8 - stayed same wk 9 & 10 - -5lbs (21st 7) wks 11-13 -11lbs (20st 10lbs) - wks 14-16 -5lbs (20st 5lbs) wks 17-19 - -4lbs (20st 1lb) 101lbs off wk 20-28 - -13lbs (19st 2lb) cant remember what week now lol 14/8 - 18st 12 (lowest i have been since i was 18!) 11/10 - 18st 6 - started to wise up again!! 30/10 - 18st 3 5/11 - 18st 1 - cant wait till i'm in the 17's 16/11 - 17st 12 yippee - havent been this weight since i was 17 21/12 -17st 8lbs

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BrianT Really Likes to post BrianT's Profile Albums BrianT's Photo Gallery Join Date: 29th September, 2010 Location: Croydon Surrey Posts: 1,091 Thanks: 62 Thanked 69 Times in 68 Posts Rep Power: 28 Consultant: Avril Chang Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Sleeve Gastrectomy Surgery Date: 23rd September 2011 Height: 5' 10" Gender: Male Start Date: 01/10/09 Start Weight: 405lb Current Weight: 275lb Goal Weight: 196lb Goal Date: June 21st 2013 BMI Information: Start BMI: 58.1 Current BMI: 39.5 Goal BMI: 28.1 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 130lb Weight to Lose: 79lb % Lost: 32.1% %EWL: 56.2%	Hi Jax I came under the Croydon PCT and they use the NICE guidelines. For them a BMI over 50 was surgery as a first option 35 - 40 required some sort of weight manangement first and between 40 and 50 with Co-morbidities was also considered as high on the list for Surgery. You can find your PCT's guidelines if you google your area and PCT Guidelines Hope this helps and good luck Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter TwinkleTwinkle likes this. __________________ My Weight Chart: Since Surgery on 23/09/2011 Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools

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Delicious-Jax Member Delicious-Jax's Profile Albums Delicious-Jax's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th July, 2006 Location: South London Posts: 278 Thanks: 47 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Rep Power: 9 Consultant: Mr.Patel at The Princess Grace Hospital Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Gastric Sleeve Surgery Date: March 31st 2012 Height: 5' 3" Gender: Female Start Weight: 290lb Current Weight: 257lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 51.4 Current BMI: 45.5 Goal BMI: Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 33lb % Lost: 11.38% %EWL: 22.1%	Thanks Brian, hope all goes well for you on Friday? I come under Lewisham PCT, though have been referred from a consultant at Guy's to Mr.Botha at St.Thomas'...which is Lambeth? Lewisham resorts to NICE guidelines criteria, which I am trying to find on the Internet. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Jax Last edited by Delicious-Jax : 21st September, 2011 at 05:15 PM

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Delicious-Jax Member Delicious-Jax's Profile Albums Delicious-Jax's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th July, 2006 Location: South London Posts: 278 Thanks: 47 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Rep Power: 9 Consultant: Mr.Patel at The Princess Grace Hospital Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Gastric Sleeve Surgery Date: March 31st 2012 Height: 5' 3" Gender: Female Start Weight: 290lb Current Weight: 257lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 51.4 Current BMI: 45.5 Goal BMI: Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 33lb % Lost: 11.38% %EWL: 22.1%	Thanks guys, will let you know as soon as I do...am excited and frightened at the same time...what a strange feeling !!! Roll on Friday morning! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Jax

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BrianT Really Likes to post BrianT's Profile Albums BrianT's Photo Gallery Join Date: 29th September, 2010 Location: Croydon Surrey Posts: 1,091 Thanks: 62 Thanked 69 Times in 68 Posts Rep Power: 28 Consultant: Avril Chang Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Sleeve Gastrectomy Surgery Date: 23rd September 2011 Height: 5' 10" Gender: Male Start Date: 01/10/09 Start Weight: 405lb Current Weight: 275lb Goal Weight: 196lb Goal Date: June 21st 2013 BMI Information: Start BMI: 58.1 Current BMI: 39.5 Goal BMI: 28.1 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 130lb Weight to Lose: 79lb % Lost: 32.1% %EWL: 56.2%	HI Jax if you didn't find the guidelines they are here CG43 Obesity: NICE guideline Good Luck Friday Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Caren likes this. __________________ My Weight Chart: Since Surgery on 23/09/2011 Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools

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22nd September, 2011	#10 (permalink)
Delicious-Jax Member Delicious-Jax's Profile Albums Delicious-Jax's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th July, 2006 Location: South London Posts: 278 Thanks: 47 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Rep Power: 9 Consultant: Mr.Patel at The Princess Grace Hospital Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Gastric Sleeve Surgery Date: March 31st 2012 Height: 5' 3" Gender: Female Start Weight: 290lb Current Weight: 257lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 51.4 Current BMI: 45.5 Goal BMI: Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 33lb % Lost: 11.38% %EWL: 22.1%	Thanks Brian, seems I do qualify..all depends on surgeons view of course. Best of luck for tomorrow.....the first day of the rest of your life without a weight problem. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Jax

22nd September, 2011	#11 (permalink)
tink1974 Likes to post tink1974's Profile Albums tink1974's Photo Gallery Join Date: 18th November, 2010 Location: co antrim Posts: 525 Thanks: 1 Thanked 74 Times in 73 Posts Rep Power: 144 Consultant: Mr Kumar @ Heartlands, Birmingham Funding: NHS Surgery Type: gastric bypass Surgery Date: 6th Januaru 2011 Height: 5' 6" Gender: Female Start Date: all my life Start Weight: 383lb Current Weight: 250lb Goal Weight: 182lb Goal Date: May 2012 BMI Information: Start BMI: 61.8 Current BMI: 40.3 Goal BMI: 29.4 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 133lb Weight to Lose: 68lb % Lost: 34.73% %EWL: 58.2%	seems like u are over the bmi hurdle which knocks a lot of people out of the nhs wls process straight away unfortunately. Good luck with the surgeon x Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Nutrition Facts For Foods Gastric Bypass 9th Dec 2010 at Heartlands Hospital delayed till 6th January 2011 Pre-op diet started Monday 22 Nov Started dieting at end of summer 2010 (start weight 27st 4 -lost a couple of stone but put some back on, so started pre-op in mid nov 2010 at 26 stone 1lb) Start weight on date of op 24st 1 Wk1 loss -9lbs (23st 6lbs) Wk 2 loss -5lbs (23st 1lb) wk 3 - stayed the same wk 4 - -6lbs (22st 9lb) Wk 5 - -5lbs (22st 4lb) 5 Stones off!!! yippee Wk 6 - -4lbs (22st) wk 7 - -2lbs (21st 12lbs) - cant remember when i was last in the 21's :-) wk 8 - stayed same wk 9 & 10 - -5lbs (21st 7) wks 11-13 -11lbs (20st 10lbs) - wks 14-16 -5lbs (20st 5lbs) wks 17-19 - -4lbs (20st 1lb) 101lbs off wk 20-28 - -13lbs (19st 2lb) cant remember what week now lol 14/8 - 18st 12 (lowest i have been since i was 18!) 11/10 - 18st 6 - started to wise up again!! 30/10 - 18st 3 5/11 - 18st 1 - cant wait till i'm in the 17's 16/11 - 17st 12 yippee - havent been this weight since i was 17 21/12 -17st 8lbs

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Delicious-Jax Member Delicious-Jax's Profile Albums Delicious-Jax's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th July, 2006 Location: South London Posts: 278 Thanks: 47 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Rep Power: 9 Consultant: Mr.Patel at The Princess Grace Hospital Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Gastric Sleeve Surgery Date: March 31st 2012 Height: 5' 3" Gender: Female Start Weight: 290lb Current Weight: 257lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 51.4 Current BMI: 45.5 Goal BMI: Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 33lb % Lost: 11.38% %EWL: 22.1%	Thanks ladies...only hours , rather than days, to go now. I will know , this time tomorrow, what the decision will be. Unless you don't get told at this first appointment?!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Jax

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Delicious-Jax Member Delicious-Jax's Profile Albums Delicious-Jax's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th July, 2006 Location: South London Posts: 278 Thanks: 47 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Rep Power: 9 Consultant: Mr.Patel at The Princess Grace Hospital Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Gastric Sleeve Surgery Date: March 31st 2012 Height: 5' 3" Gender: Female Start Weight: 290lb Current Weight: 257lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 51.4 Current BMI: 45.5 Goal BMI: Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 33lb % Lost: 11.38% %EWL: 22.1%	Just needed to come on here before I go to the appointment! Am very nervous...had to take a couple of Kalms this morning Will let you know how I get on...wish me luck !!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Jax

23rd September, 2011	#15 (permalink)
Caren i'm a pre op post opper Caren's Profile Albums Caren's Photo Gallery Join Date: 16th August, 2011 Location: Basildon in Essex UK Posts: 5,248 Thanks: 484 Thanked 537 Times in 526 Posts Rep Power: 180 Consultant: Dr Cierny Funding: Private Surgery Type: Sleeve Surgery Date: 23/5/2012 Height: 5' 2" Gender: Female Start Weight: 259lb Current Weight: 253lb Goal Weight: 125lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 47.4 Current BMI: 46.3 Goal BMI: 22.9 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 6lb Weight to Lose: 128lb % Lost: 2.32% %EWL: 4.9%	good luck Jax, thinking of you x Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Dietician 10th November 2011 sleep apnoea test 8th December 2011 Sleep Apnoea results 9th December 2011 (inconclusive) Embletta test 22nd December 2011 awaiting results 6th January 2012 its official, im a hosehead Wednesday 25th January Referral sent Tuesday 21st February 2012 funding refused Op booked privately for 23rd May 2012

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