PCT Surgery Funding Criteria - WLSurgery.com

witchingmoon · 10th December, 2011

I found this and thought I would share. It may help someone.

I was shocked at how different the rules are in each place.

BOSPA - The British Obesity Surgery Patient Association

MinnieMouse9 · 10th December, 2011

It says information for north Tyneside but they follow NICE guidelines for referral to bariatric surgery

Fuffs · 11th December, 2011

Somebody the other week said that a lot that say NICE, now follow much stricter guidelines. Its a shame that they can't all afford or want to follow NICE guidelines.

Snow White · 26th December, 2011

It says Bexley follow NICE. But, they no longer do. You have to have a BMI of 50 if no co-morbids. I was rejected for having a BMI of 49.8!! ugh!!

Fuffs · 26th December, 2011

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Originally Posted by Snow White

It says Bexley follow NICE. But, they no longer do. You have to have a BMI of 50 if no co-morbids. I was rejected for having a BMI of 49.8!! ugh!!

Wow, so close! Have you managed to get to a BMI of 50 now? I am assuming that is only a few pounds to tip the balance?

Snow White · 26th December, 2011

I haven't gotten anywhere with my gp. I haven't been able to gain enough and he refuses to make a referral. I wrote a long letter about depression and chronic pain. He is stuck on the weight gain. I have tried. But, it's against my nature to do it on purpose I guess. My body won't cooperate. Lol
I am having a private consultation this week to explore that option. It's unlikely I will be able to do it. But, my mum has offered to help. So, fingers crossed.

pandora · 26th December, 2011

I too went asking for a GP referal when my BMI was too low cos o read from the bospa site which is a few yrs out of date . I needed to put on 7 lbs & decided on the grand scheme of things it was worth it .
That was in September , I now have funding & am waiting for a date .
Good luck whatever you decide to do xx

Fuffs · 26th December, 2011

Not that I have done it, but I have heard of people wearing things on the ankles and in their pockets to be a bit heavier lol....Luckily my pct follows NICE guidelines at present (Though my hospital told me they don't and I would not be eligible for funding)

Good luck with the private route

minxtress · 26th December, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuffs

Not that I have done it, but I have heard of people wearing things on the ankles and in their pockets to be a bit heavier lol....Luckily my pct follows NICE guidelines at present (Though my hospital told me they don't and I would not be eligible for funding)

Good luck with the private route

That would be me then! I was just on the cusp of NICE guidelines so wore ankle weights and filled my trouser pockets with 2pence pieces! Wrong I know but needs must and I have to say it worked! I am attending seminar on 11 jan so go for it and do what ever needs to be done to get that referral!

Fuffs · 26th December, 2011

I realy don't blame you chick!! I would have considered it if mine wasn't high enough. Desparate times call for desperate measures lol

Snow White · 26th December, 2011

Lmao! It's sad we have to go to such extremes. I bought three sets of ankle weights! I can put them all under various folds and boobs, you can't even tell! Which to be fair should be classed as a co-morbid! Plan B, it seems I would make a great drug mule! Lol

Fuffs · 26th December, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow White

Lmao! It's sad we have to go to such extremes. I bought three sets of ankle weights! I can put them all under various folds and boobs, you can't even tell! Which to be fair should be classed as a co-morbid! Plan B, it seems I would make a great drug mule! Lol

Lol!!!!! You are funny!!!

Snow White · 27th December, 2011

At least I would make enough to go on private with plan b! Lmao

Fuffs · 27th December, 2011

Sounds like a plan! Lets set up a BBW crime ring and make money for all those who can't get funding lol....Then any let over money can go to those who are losing weight so fast they can't afford to keep up with the clothes needed lol

Its a win win as far as I can see! lol

anna2131 · 27th December, 2011

i really think its so sad that gps or because of the funding criteria that they are actively encouraging weight gain ,wen in the first place they should realise our heads need to be encouraged to except we need life style changes...
I understand the reasons you had to wear weights and applaud you for not forcing food down just to gain weight it just shows how drasticlly things need to change for overweight people in this country and gps need to learn more in this matter not go the eat more route !!! xx

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witchingmoon Likes to post witchingmoon's Profile Albums witchingmoon's Photo Gallery Join Date: 11th October, 2011 Location: Hampshire Posts: 501 Thanks: 24 Thanked 37 Times in 36 Posts Rep Power: 34 Consultant: Shaw Somers Funding: NHS Surgery Type: RNY Surgery Date: 13/12/2011 Height: 5' 6" Gender: Female Start Weight: 399lb Current Weight: 286lb Goal Weight: 231lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 64.4 Current BMI: 46.2 Goal BMI: 37.3 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 113lb Weight to Lose: 55lb % Lost: 28.32% %EWL: 46.2%	PCT Surgery Funding Criteria I found this and thought I would share. It may help someone. I was shocked at how different the rules are in each place. BOSPA - The British Obesity Surgery Patient Association Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Operation *13th December 2011* Goal ~ become a mum Goal ~ lose 50lbs Reached 20th Jan Goal ~ be able to use a wii fit Reached 12th Feb Goal ~ lose 100lbs Reached 10th April Goal ~ Get under 20st Goal ~ be a size 18

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Fuffs Shrinking Big Brummie Fuffs's Profile Albums Fuffs's Photo Gallery Join Date: 25th February, 2009 Location: West Midlands Posts: 4,595 Thanks: 161 Thanked 276 Times in 275 Posts Rep Power: 226 Consultant: Mr Nijjar & Mr Richardson Funding: NHS Surgery Type: laparoscopic RNY Surgery Date: 30th March 2012 Height: 6' 2" Gender: Female Start Date: Community WM 12/04/2011 Start Weight: 384lb Current Weight: 285lb Goal Weight: 180lb Goal Date: March 2013 :D BMI Information: Start BMI: 49.3 Current BMI: 36.6 Goal BMI: 23.1 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 99lb Weight to Lose: 105lb % Lost: 25.78% %EWL: 52.1%	Somebody the other week said that a lot that say NICE, now follow much stricter guidelines. Its a shame that they can't all afford or want to follow NICE guidelines. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ GP weight managment programme with health trainer 2009 Referred Dec 2009 Initial with WM physician March 2010 2nd with WM Physician July 2010 Then a lot of mess up and hassle! Weighed at Weight Management clinic 12th April 2011: Thought I was 26st 13.5lbs(171.3kg) turns out I was 27 st 6.5lbs, as scales were out. July 27th 2011: Sleep test (no sleep apnea) 24th Dec 2011: Funding Confirmation!!! 2nd Mar: Op date given, pre op started(On my old scales, so not sure of true weight. Gained some timber in stress time) 30/03/2012 OP date!!! 138.8 kg 02/04/2012 discharge 141.4 kg 06/04/2012 week 1 135.5 kg 28/04/2012 131.85kg 05/05/2012 129.65kg (20st 5.45 lbs / 285.45 lbs) 12/05/2012 130.90kg 16/05/2012 129.1kg (weight management)

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Snow White Likes to post Snow White's Profile Albums Snow White's Photo Gallery Join Date: 16th July, 2011 Location: Sidcup Posts: 475 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Rep Power: 41 Consultant: Dr Cierny-Cosmetic Bliss Funding: Private Surgery Type: Gastric Plication (wrap) Surgery Date: 4th March 2012 WHOOP!!!! Gender: Female Start Date: what day was I born again? Start Weight: 305lb Current Weight: 260lb Goal Weight: 150lb Goal Date: ASAP Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 45lb Weight to Lose: 110lb % Lost: 14.75%	It says Bexley follow NICE. But, they no longer do. You have to have a BMI of 50 if no co-morbids. I was rejected for having a BMI of 49.8!! ugh!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Me and my amazing surgeon! Melissa Austin Foreman on Facebook if you would like to add me. xxxxxxxx

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Snow White Likes to post Snow White's Profile Albums Snow White's Photo Gallery Join Date: 16th July, 2011 Location: Sidcup Posts: 475 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Rep Power: 41 Consultant: Dr Cierny-Cosmetic Bliss Funding: Private Surgery Type: Gastric Plication (wrap) Surgery Date: 4th March 2012 WHOOP!!!! Gender: Female Start Date: what day was I born again? Start Weight: 305lb Current Weight: 260lb Goal Weight: 150lb Goal Date: ASAP Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 45lb Weight to Lose: 110lb % Lost: 14.75%	I haven't gotten anywhere with my gp. I haven't been able to gain enough and he refuses to make a referral. I wrote a long letter about depression and chronic pain. He is stuck on the weight gain. I have tried. But, it's against my nature to do it on purpose I guess. My body won't cooperate. Lol I am having a private consultation this week to explore that option. It's unlikely I will be able to do it. But, my mum has offered to help. So, fingers crossed. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Me and my amazing surgeon! Melissa Austin Foreman on Facebook if you would like to add me. xxxxxxxx

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pandora finding my way again ! pandora's Profile Albums pandora's Photo Gallery Join Date: 13th November, 2006 Location: bournemouth Posts: 1,822 Thanks: 56 Thanked 131 Times in 131 Posts Rep Power: 261 Consultant: Mr Byrom / Mr Davies Funding: NHS Surgery Type: bypass Surgery Date: 09/03/12 Height: 5' 4" Gender: Female Start Date: pre op prep , 2/1/2012 Start Weight: 296lb Current Weight: 238lb Goal Weight: 154lb Goal Date: in my lifetime ! BMI Information: Start BMI: 50.8 Current BMI: 40.8 Goal BMI: 26.4 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 58lb Weight to Lose: 84lb % Lost: 19.59% %EWL: 38.4%	I too went asking for a GP referal when my BMI was too low cos o read from the bospa site which is a few yrs out of date . I needed to put on 7 lbs & decided on the grand scheme of things it was worth it . That was in September , I now have funding & am waiting for a date . Good luck whatever you decide to do xx Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Caren likes this. __________________ First GP request for surgery 21/09/11 ( BMI too low ) Second GP request , papers sent 18/10/11 Papers resent ( 1st got lost ) 29/10/11 Funding approved 22/11/11 Consultant appointment 15/12/11 (21 st 2lbs) dietitian appointment 09/02/12 start pre op diet 23/02/12 (20st 6.2lbs) OP date 09/03/12 ( 19st 4.6lbs ) wk 1 , 7.8lbs wk 2 , 1lb wk 3 , 2.6lb wk 4 , 3lb wk 5 , 3.8lb wk 6 , 3.4lb wk 7 , 2lb wk8 , 2.2lb wk 9 , 4lb wk 10 , 2.8lb

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Fuffs Shrinking Big Brummie Fuffs's Profile Albums Fuffs's Photo Gallery Join Date: 25th February, 2009 Location: West Midlands Posts: 4,595 Thanks: 161 Thanked 276 Times in 275 Posts Rep Power: 226 Consultant: Mr Nijjar & Mr Richardson Funding: NHS Surgery Type: laparoscopic RNY Surgery Date: 30th March 2012 Height: 6' 2" Gender: Female Start Date: Community WM 12/04/2011 Start Weight: 384lb Current Weight: 285lb Goal Weight: 180lb Goal Date: March 2013 :D BMI Information: Start BMI: 49.3 Current BMI: 36.6 Goal BMI: 23.1 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 99lb Weight to Lose: 105lb % Lost: 25.78% %EWL: 52.1%	Not that I have done it, but I have heard of people wearing things on the ankles and in their pockets to be a bit heavier lol....Luckily my pct follows NICE guidelines at present (Though my hospital told me they don't and I would not be eligible for funding) Good luck with the private route Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ GP weight managment programme with health trainer 2009 Referred Dec 2009 Initial with WM physician March 2010 2nd with WM Physician July 2010 Then a lot of mess up and hassle! Weighed at Weight Management clinic 12th April 2011: Thought I was 26st 13.5lbs(171.3kg) turns out I was 27 st 6.5lbs, as scales were out. July 27th 2011: Sleep test (no sleep apnea) 24th Dec 2011: Funding Confirmation!!! 2nd Mar: Op date given, pre op started(On my old scales, so not sure of true weight. Gained some timber in stress time) 30/03/2012 OP date!!! 138.8 kg 02/04/2012 discharge 141.4 kg 06/04/2012 week 1 135.5 kg 28/04/2012 131.85kg 05/05/2012 129.65kg (20st 5.45 lbs / 285.45 lbs) 12/05/2012 130.90kg 16/05/2012 129.1kg (weight management)

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Fuffs Shrinking Big Brummie Fuffs's Profile Albums Fuffs's Photo Gallery Join Date: 25th February, 2009 Location: West Midlands Posts: 4,595 Thanks: 161 Thanked 276 Times in 275 Posts Rep Power: 226 Consultant: Mr Nijjar & Mr Richardson Funding: NHS Surgery Type: laparoscopic RNY Surgery Date: 30th March 2012 Height: 6' 2" Gender: Female Start Date: Community WM 12/04/2011 Start Weight: 384lb Current Weight: 285lb Goal Weight: 180lb Goal Date: March 2013 :D BMI Information: Start BMI: 49.3 Current BMI: 36.6 Goal BMI: 23.1 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 99lb Weight to Lose: 105lb % Lost: 25.78% %EWL: 52.1%	I realy don't blame you chick!! I would have considered it if mine wasn't high enough. Desparate times call for desperate measures lol Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ GP weight managment programme with health trainer 2009 Referred Dec 2009 Initial with WM physician March 2010 2nd with WM Physician July 2010 Then a lot of mess up and hassle! Weighed at Weight Management clinic 12th April 2011: Thought I was 26st 13.5lbs(171.3kg) turns out I was 27 st 6.5lbs, as scales were out. July 27th 2011: Sleep test (no sleep apnea) 24th Dec 2011: Funding Confirmation!!! 2nd Mar: Op date given, pre op started(On my old scales, so not sure of true weight. Gained some timber in stress time) 30/03/2012 OP date!!! 138.8 kg 02/04/2012 discharge 141.4 kg 06/04/2012 week 1 135.5 kg 28/04/2012 131.85kg 05/05/2012 129.65kg (20st 5.45 lbs / 285.45 lbs) 12/05/2012 130.90kg 16/05/2012 129.1kg (weight management)

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Snow White Likes to post Snow White's Profile Albums Snow White's Photo Gallery Join Date: 16th July, 2011 Location: Sidcup Posts: 475 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Rep Power: 41 Consultant: Dr Cierny-Cosmetic Bliss Funding: Private Surgery Type: Gastric Plication (wrap) Surgery Date: 4th March 2012 WHOOP!!!! Gender: Female Start Date: what day was I born again? Start Weight: 305lb Current Weight: 260lb Goal Weight: 150lb Goal Date: ASAP Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 45lb Weight to Lose: 110lb % Lost: 14.75%	Lmao! It's sad we have to go to such extremes. I bought three sets of ankle weights! I can put them all under various folds and boobs, you can't even tell! Which to be fair should be classed as a co-morbid! Plan B, it seems I would make a great drug mule! Lol Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter pandora, Caren and anna2131 like this. __________________ Me and my amazing surgeon! Melissa Austin Foreman on Facebook if you would like to add me. xxxxxxxx

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Snow White Likes to post Snow White's Profile Albums Snow White's Photo Gallery Join Date: 16th July, 2011 Location: Sidcup Posts: 475 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Rep Power: 41 Consultant: Dr Cierny-Cosmetic Bliss Funding: Private Surgery Type: Gastric Plication (wrap) Surgery Date: 4th March 2012 WHOOP!!!! Gender: Female Start Date: what day was I born again? Start Weight: 305lb Current Weight: 260lb Goal Weight: 150lb Goal Date: ASAP Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 45lb Weight to Lose: 110lb % Lost: 14.75%	At least I would make enough to go on private with plan b! Lmao Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Me and my amazing surgeon! Melissa Austin Foreman on Facebook if you would like to add me. xxxxxxxx

27th December, 2011	#14 (permalink)
Fuffs Shrinking Big Brummie Fuffs's Profile Albums Fuffs's Photo Gallery Join Date: 25th February, 2009 Location: West Midlands Posts: 4,595 Thanks: 161 Thanked 276 Times in 275 Posts Rep Power: 226 Consultant: Mr Nijjar & Mr Richardson Funding: NHS Surgery Type: laparoscopic RNY Surgery Date: 30th March 2012 Height: 6' 2" Gender: Female Start Date: Community WM 12/04/2011 Start Weight: 384lb Current Weight: 285lb Goal Weight: 180lb Goal Date: March 2013 :D BMI Information: Start BMI: 49.3 Current BMI: 36.6 Goal BMI: 23.1 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 99lb Weight to Lose: 105lb % Lost: 25.78% %EWL: 52.1%	Sounds like a plan! Lets set up a BBW crime ring and make money for all those who can't get funding lol....Then any let over money can go to those who are losing weight so fast they can't afford to keep up with the clothes needed lol Its a win win as far as I can see! lol Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ GP weight managment programme with health trainer 2009 Referred Dec 2009 Initial with WM physician March 2010 2nd with WM Physician July 2010 Then a lot of mess up and hassle! Weighed at Weight Management clinic 12th April 2011: Thought I was 26st 13.5lbs(171.3kg) turns out I was 27 st 6.5lbs, as scales were out. July 27th 2011: Sleep test (no sleep apnea) 24th Dec 2011: Funding Confirmation!!! 2nd Mar: Op date given, pre op started(On my old scales, so not sure of true weight. Gained some timber in stress time) 30/03/2012 OP date!!! 138.8 kg 02/04/2012 discharge 141.4 kg 06/04/2012 week 1 135.5 kg 28/04/2012 131.85kg 05/05/2012 129.65kg (20st 5.45 lbs / 285.45 lbs) 12/05/2012 130.90kg 16/05/2012 129.1kg (weight management)

27th December, 2011	#15 (permalink)
anna2131 Likes to post anna2131's Profile Albums anna2131's Photo Gallery Join Date: 30th November, 2011 Location: north east lincolnshire Posts: 504 Thanks: 187 Thanked 58 Times in 58 Posts Rep Power: 28 Consultant: Dr p sedman Funding: NHS Surgery Type: rny Surgery Date: 10.01.2012 Height: 4' 10" Gender: Female Start Date: 3o-12-2011 liver shrinking Start Weight: 208lb Current Weight: 168lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 43.5 Current BMI: 35.1 Goal BMI: Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 40lb % Lost: 19.23% %EWL: 45%	i really think its so sad that gps or because of the funding criteria that they are actively encouraging weight gain ,wen in the first place they should realise our heads need to be encouraged to except we need life style changes... I understand the reasons you had to wear weights and applaud you for not forcing food down just to gain weight it just shows how drasticlly things need to change for overweight people in this country and gps need to learn more in this matter not go the eat more route !!! xx Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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