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hello all, introducing myself. my name is susie and i will soon be on the long journey of gastric bypass (post op permitting) and this is the best sight i could have asked for. my posy op was scheduled for mid jan. but pushed up yo next week, may 14th. i've been reading mandys threads as i am behind her and new at all this. there is so much insight and support here. thanks for the ear.
susie
 
Hi Susie......

Any help I can give just shout or pm me....... this is a wonderful journey we are on.. and very life changing.....

Welcome to the group, I am sure lots of others will be along shortly to give you support
 
I just wanted to say welcome to Mini's and good luck with your op, you must be so excited! xx
 
thank you mandy and sarah. mandy how many days for your pre op? what made you all choode gastric bypass over gastric banding when the banding is less intrusive?
thanks susie
 
Hi Susie

I have got 6 days left, my doctor gave me the choice of sleeved gastroectomy or the bypass, he felt the banding was no good for me.........

He told me to do the reasearch and let him know which one i wanted... when i read about it i decided i wanted the bypass as alot of ones i had read either went on to the byapss and some had even put on..... I felt personally the bypass was the best option
 
Hi Susie,
Welcome to mini's. I'm going for the keyhole Gastric bypass on May 31st and my pre op is May 20th. I chose this as banding, apparently, needs to be readjusted etc and eventually taken out. I can't afford to pay for so many procedures and wanted something permanent so my surgeon said the best option for me was a bypass.
When are you having the op?
xx
 
newbie-susie

thanks for the welcome sara, my post op is may 14th at university college hospital in central london. don't know which surgery i want yet.
 
am reading alot of threads. what exactly is the dumps? does everyone have them? what exactly can you eat after surgery? is ut a liquid diet first couple of weeks? do you diet 2 weeks before op? anyone whose had op please answer.
thanks susie
 
hi susie, hope all goes well for u sweetie, i had my bypass last may ive lost nearly 8stone now and feel fanbloodytastic lol, im here to help if u need me to just ask my buddy mandy lol, ive hopefully helped her and others on the run up to their ops, im not an expert and every1 is different but i can maybe offer u some help or advice if u need it ok take care and good luck hun lv georgina xxx umm as for u mandy its 5 days now hun and im behind u all the way xxx
 
i've heard of keyhole surgery for gastrix banding but can do keyhole for gastric bypass? isnt the cut have to be bigger? can i have minimul cutting on gastric bypass as i am diabetic and wounds take longer to heal.
thanks susie
 
Info from my dietician

Hi Susie,
I've just received an email from my dietician regarding the gastric bypass and por-op diet. I'll try to cut and paste it here as it might be useful. There's also a lot of info on the internet. My surgeon had never seen anyone who had done as much research as me when I went for the consultation-I had 4 A4 sheets full of question!! lol.
I hope that this helps!
 
Gastric bypass

Gastric Bypass
The gastric bypass best suits people with a BMI >40. If your diet contains refined sugar (sweet foods) this procedure is often preferred. Like the gastric band the bypass places a restriction on the quantity of food that can be consumed by reducing the size of your stomach. It also effects the digestion and absorption of food and therefore creates a larger degree of weight loss.

The Procedure
The bypass is a more invasive procedure than gastric banding. It is carried out laproscopically under general anaesthetic and usually takes between 2-4hours. You will generally be discharged from hospital 2-3 days following your operation.

As with the band the bypass restricts the quantity of food by creating a small stomach pouch at the top end of the stomach. The major difference is that food does not enter the lower half of the stomach because the operation bypasses this area and rejoins the bowels at the jejunum. The bypass of this area means less nutrients are absorbed by the body and this also means weight loss is more rapid. It is important to note that although less absorption occurs, the body can still receive adequate nutrition.

As the body adjusts to the gastric bypass, dietary intake involves progression from a:
Fluid diet 1-2 days
Liquidised diet 1-3 weeks
Soft diet 4-5 weeks
Normal diet(Solid) + 6 weeks

The length of time at each stage differs from person to person. The aim is to get you back to a healthy diet of a solid consistency by 6weeks (see dietary intake post gastric bypass).

Initially there is a need to restrict the consistency and type of foods that can be consumed. This is due to the presence of swelling between the opening of the new stomach pouch and the intestine. Initially only liquidised foods should be consumed. A few teaspoons will make you feel full.

The new stomach pouch is much smaller and subsequently has a decreased holding capacity to store the food that you eat. This means you won’t be able to eat large volumes of food. You will feel full very quickly and your appetite will be decreased. As the body adjusts there will be some give allowing for more solid food to be consumed.

Due to dietary restrictions it is important to protect against nutritional deficiencies. Following surgery you should have a multivitamin, calcium and iron supplement which will protect against the risks of osteoporosis and anaemia. Occasionally a zinc deficiency may occur and you may be prescribed a tablet called Zincomed. An anti acid tablet will help reduce stomach acid and prevent the formation of ulcers.

Initially post surgery is the time when the stomach adjusts to its new environment. The body is healing post surgery, so it is important that you still consume adequate calories and protein to help promote recovery.
Constipation

This is due to drinking insufficient fluids, or drinking too much fluid that contains diuretics such as tea, coffee or alcohol. The solution is to drink more fluids and avoid diuretics rather than to take laxatives.

Diarrhoea
Bowels normally return to normal after the operation, although diarrhoea is not uncommon to start with. This usually settles as you restart solids.
If it does not settle or it returns, look carefully at what you are eating. The most common reason is eating foods high in sugar such as sweets, chocolates, sweet drinks or sugar added to food, or food that is high in fat such as crisps, snack foods, chips, fried foods, cheese and fatty meals. Make sure you drink extra fluid if you do have diarrhoea until it settles, but avoid sugary drinks. If your bowel motions become fatty, yellow and difficult to flush, this is always due to eating too much fat, which has exceeded the body’s ability to absorb it. It will settle if your diet is adjusted.

Dumping Syndrome
The bypass can lead to a condition called dumping. This is a term used to describe a number of symptoms including; sweating, faintness, palpitations, diarrhoea, nausea and abdominal distension. It occurs when food rapidly enters the jejunum. The main cause of dumping is sugar and sugary foods and they must therefore be avoided. Ensuring small, frequent meals with carbohydrate can also help reduce symptoms if they occur. You will still be able to consume a small quantity of chocolate, biscuits, fruit juices, sweet desserts but they must be consumed in moderation.

Vomiting
Your body will tell you if it is unhappy with the consistency and type of food that you have consumed. Vomiting may be caused by eating too fast, too much, or food that is too solid. If it contains blood (which is extremely rare), immediately call your G.P.
Generally if you revert back to the consistency of food that you could previously tolerate, and then retry a more solid consistency a few days later.
i.e. I you have been having solid food, try soft food.
If you are at the soft stage, try the liquidised stage.


Medications on discharge

Whilst in hospital, you will commence on some tablets, which you will go home on and which you need to keep taking. These consist of anti-acid tablet called FasTab (lansoprazole 30 mg) that dissolves in the mouth and which reduces the amount of stomach acid that you make. This is essential to prevent ulcers at the joint between the stomach and the intestine as the intestine is rather sensitive to the acid. You’ll also be given a pain-killer in solution form, and may need to take that for a week or two. Paracetamol is often sufficient after 1-2 weeks. You will be given a short supply of the medications from the hospital when you are discharged and you will need to arrange for a repeat prescription from you GP.

Your doctor will be sent a list of the medications that you are now on, and will be asked to start you on calcium, iron and multivitamin supplements after 2-3 weeks from the operation. Occasionally patients notice some hair loss after the surgery, and this seems to be due to a possible selenium and zinc deficiency. If this occurs, you can buy selenium supplements over the counter in most chemists, either as capsules or chewable or request from your GP. Zincomed Take two standard strength tablets twice daily as well as selenium (2 tablets, twice daily. Alternatively your doctor can prescribe you a zinc supplement (prescription name Zincomed, 2 tablets twice daily).

If you have a under active thyroid and take a medication called levothyroxine it is advised that you allow a minimum of two hours between drug administration. Thyroxin can bind to iron supplements and reduce absorption therefore taking these drugs individually and on an empty stomach will prevent any problems.

If you have diabetes then close monitoring of your blood sugar levels is essential. Food intake will be minimal over the first few weeks and it is likely that medication will need to be adjusted accordingly.
The wound

The skin wound will have been closed with absorbable sutures that dissolve. The sutures will have been placed under the skin and don’t need to be removed. You’ll have water proof dressings on so that you may have a shower or a bath any time after the surgery. All you’ll need to do is to peel the dressings off a week after the operation.
If the wound gets red and swollen, or discharges fluid, this might suggest a wound infection and you should see your doctor. This is not a common problem. It is very rare to have a wound hernia after keyhole surgery.
Exercise

It is important to stay mobile when you first get home, and gentle exercise is encouraged. After 2-3 weeks you should get into the habit of taking regular exercise such as swimming, brisk walking or jogging, or visiting a gymnasium; aim for at least 30 minutes a day, 3 times a week. It is safe to use toning tables after 6 weeks. You will notice that your ability to exercise improves very rapidly after the surgery. Apart from speeding up the weight loss by burning off more calories, exercise reduces blood pressure and blood cholesterol and improves muscle tone, which reduces the problems of sagging skin. Most people are able to return to work after 2-3 weeks. You may resume driving after 2 weeks from surgery.
 
How much weight will I lose?
Weight loss after the operation is initially very swift – most patients will lose a stone a month. This will slow down with time as you approach your target weight.
Patients are individual people and no two are the same. Of course different patients need to lose different amounts of weight and the dimensions of the bypass are adjusted to take this into account. As a rule of thumb however, most patients will lose about two thirds of their excess body weight in the first year, and about half of the patients will halve their weight after 12-18 months. After about 18 months the weight will probably have levelled off and most people are happy with their weight at this stage. It is possible to lose more weight by a combination of regular exercise and additional dieting usually by reducing high calorie snack foods or fluids rather than reducing the meal size. Unlike ordinary dieting, where weight is regained very rapidly when the diet stops, weight loss after the surgery is more permanent and once lost, weight tends to stay off.

Is the operation reversible?

It is technically possible to reverse the operation surgically, but no patient has ever asked us to do this. Neither have we ever had to reverse the procedure on medical grounds.

Gallstones
Weight loss by any means (including diet) promotes the production of gallstones. If the scan you had before your operation shows gallstones, the gallbladder is removed at the time of the gastric bypass. If normal, the gallbladder is left in place and you are prescribed a tablet called Ursodeoxycholic acid to reduce the risk of forming gallstones. This is started after a month and is continued for 6 months. In my experience, about 10% of patients may still develop gallstones later and may need surgery.

Will I need plastic surgery?
A variety of factors including your starting weight, weight loss that you have achieved after surgery, location of excess weight and your age influence the need for plastic surgery. In general, skin elasticity is greater in younger patients and the need for plastic surgery is less. You may need an operation to remove what might become a very saggy abdominal skin (apron) after your weight has levelled. This is usually after two years from the gastric bypass operation.

Can I become pregnant?

Yes. Women have become pregnant after this operation without complications. It is advisable that you avoid becoming pregnant in the first 18 months post bypass. Need to ensure that the diet is adequate to promote healthy growth of baby.


Dietary Intake Post Gastric Bypass


1-2 Days Post Surgery
On the first 1-2days post surgery you will be able to commence free fluids ( tea / coffee/ clear juices and soup). Following discharge from hospital it is recommended that you commence a liquid / puree diet.

1 week – 3 Weeks: Liquid / Puree
As tolerated the consistency of food can be increased to incorporate differing food types and groups.

1 A liquidiser will ensure that all food is of the correct consistency.
2 No solid food should be consumed.
3 Aim for 4-6 small meals / day.
4 It is important to have fluids that are not part of your food intake.
5 Eat slowly and stop when full. To much food will make you vomit!.
6 If some foods cause discomfort or make you feel too full / nauseous, remove this food from the diet and retry at a later date.
7 Sauces and gravy will help moisten foods.
Suitable Foods:
Protein
Carbohydrate
Fruit and vegetables
s/s milk
2tbsp puree porridge
100ml fruit juice
Yoghurt
½ weetabix
100mls tomato juice
25g puree chicken
2tbs breakfast cereal
1tbs pureed vegetables
25g pureed beef / lamb
1 tbs pureed potato
1 tbs stewed fruit
25g pureed pork / fish
250mls soup
1tbs tinned fruit
25g soft cheese
2tbs beans / pulses



4 weeks – 5 weeks: Soft Diet
· This is the final transition back to solid foods.
· A liquidiser should not be needed at this stage.
· Food should be soft and tender.
· 4-6 small meals per day.
· Fluids in between meals. ½ hour before or ½ hour after meals.
· Some foods are more difficult to consume than others. Doughy bread and meats often cause problems. If you have initial difficulties avoid for a few days and then retry.
· Chew all food well.
· Stop when you feel full.
· Alcohol in moderation.
Protein
Carbohydrate
Fruit and vegetables
½ pint s/s milk
2tbsp cooked rice
soft fruit no skins
1 low fat Yoghurt
25g dried pasta
Soft vegetables
25g tender fish
1 s breakfast cereal
Fruit tinned in own juice
25g mince meat
Jacket potato(no skin)

25g soft cheese
1 weetabix

50g cottage cheese
250mls soup

scrambled egg
2tbs beans /pulses

Rice pudding
1 slice of soft bread

omlette
2tbsp mashed potato



Week 6: Normal Diet (solid consistency)
By this stage we are looking at a balanced, varied and healthy diet for weight loss.

· Regular meals x3 / day.
· Adequate carbohydrate (bread / cereal / pasta / rice / potato. At least 1 portion with each meal).
· Low fat alternatives.
· Low sugar.
· Adequate fibre intake (fruit and vegetables).
· Low calorie drinks.
· Fluids in between meals. ½ hour before or ½ hour after meals.
· Some foods are more difficult to consume than others. Doughy bread and meats often cause problems. If you have initial difficulties avoid for a few days and then retry.
· Chew all food well.
· Stop when you feel full.
· Alcohol in moderation.
Examples of suitable meals post 6 weeks.
Breakfast:
Choose on of the following at breakfast

Bran flakes (4 tbsp) with semi skimmed or skimmed milk

Muesli (4tbsp) with semi skimmed or skimmed milk

Shredded wheat x1 with semi skimmed or skimmed milk

Weetabix x1

Porridge (4tbsp) with semi skimmed or skimmed milk

Rice Krispies (4tbsp)

Toast: Wholemeal / granary bread with low fat spread reduced sugar jam.

Scrambled egg with wholemeal bread

Low fat, low sugar yogurt

Cup of tea / coffee

Glass of orange juice / tomato juice

Choose wholemeal products where possible.



Lunch:
Chose on of the following at lunch

Jacket potato (200g) with cottage cheese (50g) tuna (25g) , low fat cheese () or beans (100g)

Sandwich ( tuna / sardines in tomato sauce / lean ham / low fat cheese / cottage cheese)

Bagel / pitta bread / crackers

Beans(100g) on toast

Rice crakers with soft low fat cheese

Pasta salad

Rice

Scrambled egg on toast

Crisp bread

Soup with wholemeal bread x2

Low fat yogurt

Piece of fruit

Potato salad



Evening meal
Chose on of the following:

Chicken 75g) with new potatoes (2-3) and vegetables

Salmon, mackeral with rice (2 tbsp) and salad

Spaghetti bolognaise (Lean minced beef)

Chicken (75g) with pasta (2-3tbsp)

Vegetable lasagne / cannelloni

Pasta (2-3tbsp) with tomato based sauce

Chicken(75g) with rice(2 tbsp) in tomato or vegetable based sauces

Convenience meal such as weight watchers, Tesco or Sainsbury healthy eating range.

One day a week have your favourite meal E.g. Chinese, Indian, pizza



Snacks

Apple / orange / banana / grapes / pear x1

Matchbox size dried fruit

Crackers x2

Crisp bread x2

Low fat low sugar yoghurt x1











 
Pre-op liver reduction plan

Some surgeons mandate a very restricted diet (Please check with your surgeon / dietitian to see if you need to follow this regimen). One that is low in fat, sugar and carbohydrates - for one week prior to surgery. Doing so will increase your chances of your operation being completed laparoscopically because it will shrink your liver down in size.
By following a strict diet, your body reduces its glycogen stores (glycogen is a form of sugar stored in the liver and muscles for energy). With each ounce of glycogen, the body stores 3–4 ounces of water, so when you follow a very strict diet, especially one that is low in starch and sugar, your body loses its glycogen stores and some water. The liver shrinks as it has less glycogen and water in it.
This diet is only recommended for one week before surgery and is not to be followed post–operatively. It is quite possible you lose a lot of weight that week, but it will be mainly be water loss. Please ensure you continue to drink throughout the day.
If you suffer from diabetes you can still follow the pre-op plan but please ensure that you have some carbohydrate with each meal. Check your blood sugar levels more frequently as they are likely to be lower than normal. If you take insulin you may have to lower your dose. If unsure speak with your diabetes specialist nurse or your GP who will advise accordingly. Whilst your intake is restricted it is advisable to take a general multivitamin.
Although the plan is restrictive it is beneficial and will help your surgery during your procedure.
Meal

Suitable food choice

Breakfast

Lunch
Small bowl of cereal, or 1 slice of toast with a scraping of low fat spread

1 slice bread or 2 crispbreads
Small portion lean meat or fish, or a small portion cheese, or 2 eggs (not fried)
Green salad (no dressing) or tomatoes

Dinner

Small portion lean meat or fish, or small portion low fat cheese, or 2 eggs, or Tofu or Quorn based dish
1 small potato or 2 tablespoonfuls pasta or rice
Vegetables (as many as you like except for root vegetables)


Daily

1/3 pint milk for use in drinks and on cereal
2 portions of fruit (e.g. apple, orange, banana, pear)
Free water, tea, coffee, low calorie squash or fizzy drinks
1 low fat, low sugar yogurt or fromage frais



It is recommended that you avoid ALL alcohol during this period.
 
wow thanks coach for all that info, its so helpful. i am just at tthe beginning of my journey, i go may 14th for post. i have been trying to follow mandy as its any day now and i wish the both of you the best. do you have an actual surgery date yet?
thanks susie
 
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