Fuffs

Hi

I am watching Biggest Loser USA and one of the contestnats had a gastric bypass when she was 14.

I am not sure what her age is now. But she is very overweight. The show doctor said to her that the bypass makes you lose lean muscle tissue. So when you gain back weight (trying to cut that thought out of my mind lol) you gain all fat and no muscle. So you end up with a hangier, bigger stomach.

The doctor said the loss of muscle is something that Bariatric surgeons don't want to talk about. I would think it is obvious there would be some with rapid weight loss. But there you go.

I was wondering if anyone else has had major weight gain since losing weight after a bypass? And if so, was the at distribution worse afterwards?

Do you think the ladies major weight gain is because she had the op done as a 14 year old while she is still developing?

I can't lie, it disturbed me a little bit.

Maybe she was too young to maximise it as a tool and her parents did not understand the tool. I don't know

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GP weight managment programme with health trainer 2009
Referred Dec 2009
Initial with WM physician March 2010
2nd with WM Physician July 2010
Then a lot of mess up and hassle!
Weighed at Weight Management clinic 12th April 2011: Thought I was 26st 13.5lbs(171.3kg) turns out I was 27 st 6.5lbs, as scales were out.
July 27th 2011: Sleep test (no sleep apnea)
24th Dec 2011: Funding Confirmation!!!
2nd Mar: Op date given, pre op started(On my old scales, so not sure of true weight. Gained some timber in stress time)
30/03/2012 OP date!!! 138.8 kg
02/04/2012 discharge 141.4 kg
06/04/2012 week 1 135.5 kg
28/04/2012 131.85kg
05/05/2012 129.65kg (20st 5.45 lbs / 285.45 lbs)
12/05/2012 130.90kg
16/05/2012 129.1kg (weight management)

Yvessa

I haven't watched it but with any regain you will usually regain fat rather than muscle. Also although you will lose some muscle mass, a protein rich diet should help you replace it while you don't replace the fat.

I suspect at 14, she probably didn't have the maturity to understand the requirements of the surgery, not to mention that aftercare has improved loads.

Lastly, 30% of patients will regain, and of these 10% will have done nothing wrong.

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Fuffs

Wow, I didn't realise that! Thanks Yve.

And I forgot about the protein first, which is for the muscle mass.

I agree that her maturity was the problem. The Doctor also asked her about aftercare and she said she didn't get any. He said her doctor just took her money basically and he was annoyed that at 4, she was not made to try healthy eating first. Bad times

__________________
GP weight managment programme with health trainer 2009
Referred Dec 2009
Initial with WM physician March 2010
2nd with WM Physician July 2010
Then a lot of mess up and hassle!
Weighed at Weight Management clinic 12th April 2011: Thought I was 26st 13.5lbs(171.3kg) turns out I was 27 st 6.5lbs, as scales were out.
July 27th 2011: Sleep test (no sleep apnea)
24th Dec 2011: Funding Confirmation!!!
2nd Mar: Op date given, pre op started(On my old scales, so not sure of true weight. Gained some timber in stress time)
30/03/2012 OP date!!! 138.8 kg
02/04/2012 discharge 141.4 kg
06/04/2012 week 1 135.5 kg
28/04/2012 131.85kg
05/05/2012 129.65kg (20st 5.45 lbs / 285.45 lbs)
12/05/2012 130.90kg
16/05/2012 129.1kg (weight management)

Caren

i saw a super morbidly obese man one one of these american shows that was eating himself to death, he also had had a bypass xxx

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sleep apnoea test 8th December 2011
Sleep Apnoea results 9th December 2011 (inconclusive)
Embletta test 22nd December 2011 awaiting results
6th January 2012 its official, im a hosehead
Wednesday 25th January Referral sent
Tuesday 21st February 2012 funding refused
Op booked privately for 23rd May 2012

Fuffs

Oh yeah!!! I saw one of Supersize Vs Super skinny when they went to America. They even had to put a band on his bypass. But he was still eating calorific and high fat slider foods. I was horrified!

__________________
GP weight managment programme with health trainer 2009
Referred Dec 2009
Initial with WM physician March 2010
2nd with WM Physician July 2010
Then a lot of mess up and hassle!
Weighed at Weight Management clinic 12th April 2011: Thought I was 26st 13.5lbs(171.3kg) turns out I was 27 st 6.5lbs, as scales were out.
July 27th 2011: Sleep test (no sleep apnea)
24th Dec 2011: Funding Confirmation!!!
2nd Mar: Op date given, pre op started(On my old scales, so not sure of true weight. Gained some timber in stress time)
30/03/2012 OP date!!! 138.8 kg
02/04/2012 discharge 141.4 kg
06/04/2012 week 1 135.5 kg
28/04/2012 131.85kg
05/05/2012 129.65kg (20st 5.45 lbs / 285.45 lbs)
12/05/2012 130.90kg
16/05/2012 129.1kg (weight management)

Caren

i guess thats what happens if you cant sort your head out xxx

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Dietician 10th November 2011
sleep apnoea test 8th December 2011
Sleep Apnoea results 9th December 2011 (inconclusive)
Embletta test 22nd December 2011 awaiting results
6th January 2012 its official, im a hosehead
Wednesday 25th January Referral sent
Tuesday 21st February 2012 funding refused
Op booked privately for 23rd May 2012

Fuffs

I totally agree my friend x

__________________
GP weight managment programme with health trainer 2009
Referred Dec 2009
Initial with WM physician March 2010
2nd with WM Physician July 2010
Then a lot of mess up and hassle!
Weighed at Weight Management clinic 12th April 2011: Thought I was 26st 13.5lbs(171.3kg) turns out I was 27 st 6.5lbs, as scales were out.
July 27th 2011: Sleep test (no sleep apnea)
24th Dec 2011: Funding Confirmation!!!
2nd Mar: Op date given, pre op started(On my old scales, so not sure of true weight. Gained some timber in stress time)
30/03/2012 OP date!!! 138.8 kg
02/04/2012 discharge 141.4 kg
06/04/2012 week 1 135.5 kg
28/04/2012 131.85kg
05/05/2012 129.65kg (20st 5.45 lbs / 285.45 lbs)
12/05/2012 130.90kg
16/05/2012 129.1kg (weight management)

newcy

That she was given such a major surgery before she was an adult is terrible! I definitely think you can be too young physically but also emotionally and she obviously received next to no aftercare. Wls requires a change in your eating habits and behaviour but if you're too young I don't see how you can grasp that?!?


Poor girl - I hope she's able to make a permanent change this time x

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Yvessa

I agree; its not somethings surgeons really want to talk about. But I have been reading a lot of medical journals to try and get my head around sleeve or bypass. They also say that even if you regain, only 3.1 percent of people who've had a bypass get their comorbidities back. However, lots of journals are mentioning vitamin deficiencys 5 to 10 years down the line.

I know the eating habits is on me, and that's fine, but it will destroy me if I do all the right things and still put it back on again.

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Below 29 stone (preop)
Below 28 stone (preop)
Below 27 stone (preop)
BMI Below 60 - 26stone 7lb (postop) 21/04/2012
Below 26 stone (postop) 21/04/2012
Below 25 stone 28/04/2012
Below 24 stone

Bypass at L&D on 16th April 2012!

Yvessa

I can't understand how they could justify a bypass - a band i could understand as it may have helped her to develop good eating habits and she could eventually have it removed if necessary. A bypass in children is just irresponsible.

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Below 30 stone (preop)
Below 29 stone (preop)
Below 28 stone (preop)
Below 27 stone (preop)
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Below 26 stone (postop) 21/04/2012
Below 25 stone 28/04/2012
Below 24 stone

Bypass at L&D on 16th April 2012!

mariew

I still don't understand how you can get to the same weight after surgery! I can't eat anywhere near what I was able to eat before. Also I feel full for quite a long time. I ate 2 hours ago and couldn't fit another bite in! I struggle to get 900 cals in!

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Yvessa

Froom everything I have read I understand the danger zone starts around 6 months.

At this point your body readjusts so you cannot rely on malabsorption. Your appetite returns. You can eat pretty much everything and in only slightly smaller than normal quantities.

A lot of self help books suggest that this is actually a fifth stage of your post op eating plan and that you will have to make new adjustments to ensure continued weight loss. Also at around 3-5 years is another danger zone.

Lastly, although the size of the pouch does not change beyond what is expected (despite scare stories) the intestine below the pouch can and you can get extra space (as it were) in there!

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Below 30 stone (preop)
Below 29 stone (preop)
Below 28 stone (preop)
Below 27 stone (preop)
BMI Below 60 - 26stone 7lb (postop) 21/04/2012
Below 26 stone (postop) 21/04/2012
Below 25 stone 28/04/2012
Below 24 stone

Bypass at L&D on 16th April 2012!

mariew

All this scares the pants off me, I just want to get healthy and stay like it x

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Marie x

Fuffs

Wow Yve, you really have done some serious research! Thank you for explaining. I like to understand this lifelong tool I am opting into. What I realise now is it is even MORE of just a tool that I ever even realised Got to try and get and keep my willpower and healthy eating mojo back. I don't want to do this and fail. Otherwise, I may aswell leave my insides intact

Scares me too chick. Sorry if this thread has upset anyone. Who was just sitting watching the TV and needed to ask someone. It scares the hell out of me to think I could sabotage and get this big again. I need to start doing even more research to get to grips with my tool (well for when I have it that is)

__________________
GP weight managment programme with health trainer 2009
Referred Dec 2009
Initial with WM physician March 2010
2nd with WM Physician July 2010
Then a lot of mess up and hassle!
Weighed at Weight Management clinic 12th April 2011: Thought I was 26st 13.5lbs(171.3kg) turns out I was 27 st 6.5lbs, as scales were out.
July 27th 2011: Sleep test (no sleep apnea)
24th Dec 2011: Funding Confirmation!!!
2nd Mar: Op date given, pre op started(On my old scales, so not sure of true weight. Gained some timber in stress time)
30/03/2012 OP date!!! 138.8 kg
02/04/2012 discharge 141.4 kg
06/04/2012 week 1 135.5 kg
28/04/2012 131.85kg
05/05/2012 129.65kg (20st 5.45 lbs / 285.45 lbs)
12/05/2012 130.90kg
16/05/2012 129.1kg (weight management)

Ruthiep

I was going to ask this....is there a point at which sleeve patients also have a high risk of regaining even if they do nothing wrong? Or is it only if they stretch their pouch by shoving too much food into it?

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