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| Likes to post tango's Profile Albums tango's Photo Gallery Join Date: 14th August, 2009 Location: Godalming, Surrey
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Rep Power: 26 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Consultant: Shaw Somers Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Sleeve Surgery Date: 10th November 2010 Height: 5' 7" Gender: Female Start Weight: 317lb Current Weight: 253lb Goal Weight: 161lb Goal Date: Whenever... BMI Information: Start BMI: 49.6 Current BMI: 39.6 Goal BMI: 25.2 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 64lb Weight to Lose: 92lb % Lost: 20.19% %EWL: 40.5% | How does the milk diet shrink your liver? I expect that I am asking a stupid question because I suppose I should know having been on it now for a week. But I was wondering what actually happens to your liver? Does the milk diet reduce the size of your liver because you use up glycerin that has been stored in it (due to less calories) or does the liver shrink because of the amount of milk that is consumed? Anybody know?
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| Im always here! ![]() ![]() ![]() Grace's Profile Albums Grace's Photo Gallery Join Date: 23rd September, 2009 Location: UK
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Rep Power: 1094 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Funding: NHS Surgery Type: RNY bypass Surgery Date: 08/2010 Height: 5' 0" Gender: Female Start Date: age 16! Start Weight: 265lb Current Weight: 134lb Goal Weight: 129lb Goal Date: hopefully by December 2011 BMI Information: Start BMI: 51.7 Current BMI: 26.2 Goal BMI: 25.2 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 131lb Weight to Lose: 5lb % Lost: 49.43% %EWL: 95.3% | Ok here's my bit of amateur (kind of) biology and physiology the liver is the largest organ in your body and amongst other things one of it's main functions is to store energy in the form of a substance called glycogen. The energy in glycogen is water soluble, so the liver is a way a bit like a big sponge, saturated in this stuff called glycogen. When we embark on the liver -shrinking diet, be it the milk diet or the low carb, low fat very low calorie diet, the liver is called upon to use its glycogen stores. As the glycogen stores are used up, the liver begins to shrink, a bit like a sponge being squeezed of it's water content. It's not the milk consumed, it's the fact that the glycogen stores are used. I'm sure someone can bring a far more scientific explanation, but that's my best effort! Hope it helps.xxx
__________________ ![]() Into 18s - done pre-op Jan 2010 Into 17s - done pre-op 16th July 2010 Into 16s - done 2 weeks post-op 24th August 2010 Into 15s - done 6 weeks post op! 21st September 2010 Into 14s - done 11 weeks post-op. 26th October 2010Into 13s - done 17 weeks post-op ![]() ![]() ![]() 14th December 2010Into 12s - done 26 weeks post-op ![]() ![]() ![]() 9th February 2011 Into 11s - done 35 weeks post-op ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 11th April 2011!Into 10s - done 48 weeks post-op - 12th July 2011 ![]() ![]() ![]() into 9s! done 14 months post-op - 7th October 2011 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My Weight Chart: >13 pounds lost pre-op (including pre-op milk diet) Post-Op Weight Loss Month 1 - 19 pounds Month 2 - 9 pounds Month 3 - 18 pounds Month 4 - 5 pounds Month 5 - 7 pounds Month 6 - 7 pounds Month 7 - 6 pounds Month 8 - 6 pounds Month 9 - 5 pounds Month 10 - 6 pounds Month 11 - 2 pounds ![]() Month 12 - 15 pounds!!!! |
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Rep Power: 26 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Consultant: Shaw Somers Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Sleeve Surgery Date: 10th November 2010 Height: 5' 7" Gender: Female Start Weight: 317lb Current Weight: 253lb Goal Weight: 161lb Goal Date: Whenever... BMI Information: Start BMI: 49.6 Current BMI: 39.6 Goal BMI: 25.2 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 64lb Weight to Lose: 92lb % Lost: 20.19% %EWL: 40.5% | Thanks Charis for your explanation. I was wondering if you know the answer to this one? Why is it that some consultants want the milk diet for two weeks some for less and some for more? Do you know how long it takes to shrink the liver of its glycerin? You are know my technical guru???!!! x
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I did the milk diet for 10 days but my liver as not particularly shrunk at surgery - and I stuck to it like glue! I'm guessing some surgeons are just more fussy and 'careful' than others. From my knowledge of surgeons (I was a nurse for 20 years) they're a fussy lot, they tend to be 'prima donnas'; and each has their own 'signature' in the way the like things to be done Even surgeons working side-by-side can vary enormously in their preferences: one likes this particular instrument, another this particular suture (stitch) it's a big job for nurses who work in theatres to KNOW INSIDE OUT each surgeon's preference....because like divas, they can be known to throw huge hissy fits if they don't get just what they want!
__________________ ![]() Into 18s - done pre-op Jan 2010 Into 17s - done pre-op 16th July 2010 Into 16s - done 2 weeks post-op 24th August 2010 Into 15s - done 6 weeks post op! 21st September 2010 Into 14s - done 11 weeks post-op. 26th October 2010Into 13s - done 17 weeks post-op ![]() ![]() ![]() 14th December 2010Into 12s - done 26 weeks post-op ![]() ![]() ![]() 9th February 2011 Into 11s - done 35 weeks post-op ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 11th April 2011!Into 10s - done 48 weeks post-op - 12th July 2011 ![]() ![]() ![]() into 9s! done 14 months post-op - 7th October 2011 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My Weight Chart: >13 pounds lost pre-op (including pre-op milk diet) Post-Op Weight Loss Month 1 - 19 pounds Month 2 - 9 pounds Month 3 - 18 pounds Month 4 - 5 pounds Month 5 - 7 pounds Month 6 - 7 pounds Month 7 - 6 pounds Month 8 - 6 pounds Month 9 - 5 pounds Month 10 - 6 pounds Month 11 - 2 pounds ![]() Month 12 - 15 pounds!!!! | |
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Rep Power: 26 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Consultant: Shaw Somers Funding: NHS Surgery Type: Sleeve Surgery Date: 10th November 2010 Height: 5' 7" Gender: Female Start Weight: 317lb Current Weight: 253lb Goal Weight: 161lb Goal Date: Whenever... BMI Information: Start BMI: 49.6 Current BMI: 39.6 Goal BMI: 25.2 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 64lb Weight to Lose: 92lb % Lost: 20.19% %EWL: 40.5% | I am hoping that my liver at least does the decent thing and shrink for my surgery or I will be having a serious word with it!! Your liver obviously shrunk enough for surgery so that was a blessing I imagine it would be pretty much everyones nightmare to be told that their liver hadnt shrunk enough. Well I am off now to make more jelly, strawberry I think today! Thanks for your help. x
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and judging by the size of the gown I wore (could've got 3 of me into it, it was so huge) he wasn't lying. He made me feel quite good!
__________________ ![]() Into 18s - done pre-op Jan 2010 Into 17s - done pre-op 16th July 2010 Into 16s - done 2 weeks post-op 24th August 2010 Into 15s - done 6 weeks post op! 21st September 2010 Into 14s - done 11 weeks post-op. 26th October 2010Into 13s - done 17 weeks post-op ![]() ![]() ![]() 14th December 2010Into 12s - done 26 weeks post-op ![]() ![]() ![]() 9th February 2011 Into 11s - done 35 weeks post-op ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 11th April 2011!Into 10s - done 48 weeks post-op - 12th July 2011 ![]() ![]() ![]() into 9s! done 14 months post-op - 7th October 2011 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My Weight Chart: >13 pounds lost pre-op (including pre-op milk diet) Post-Op Weight Loss Month 1 - 19 pounds Month 2 - 9 pounds Month 3 - 18 pounds Month 4 - 5 pounds Month 5 - 7 pounds Month 6 - 7 pounds Month 7 - 6 pounds Month 8 - 6 pounds Month 9 - 5 pounds Month 10 - 6 pounds Month 11 - 2 pounds ![]() Month 12 - 15 pounds!!!! | |
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