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Mixman
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salski
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its horrific mate and I hate it.
I had it pre-pregnancy about once a week and it is sometimes known as 'late stage dumping' in bypassers. Its basically as it says on the tin, you eat something sugar filled and 1-4 hours later it hits your intestine. It makes your insulin levels rise to combat the sugar and then once it has done that - your insuling levels are too high and your blood sugar drops to low. Im sure a diabetic can correct me, but my hospital have told me blood sugar counts should be between 4 and 8. Mine are consistantly below 2 which my monitor will not read.
Now I am pregnant its gotten worse and I was CONSTANTLY drinking litres of lucozade and having dextrose tablets to keep levels up (instead of eating sugar to cause this, it was literally eating anything) and then having to have a coplex carb, but as a bypasser I was struggling to get the carb in after a litre of lucozade.
I have now been put on medication which no one in the UK has been put on whilst pregnant, so I am being treated as a guinnea pig for future bypassers that get pregnant with lots of reports being written about me and the side effects.
The meds keep glucose in my bowel longers so the insilun levels dont rise and fall as much.
The worst side effect is I am unable to eat or drink ANYTHING with sugar in. No matter what. At the start I couldnt even eat fruit, but it doesnt seem to be as reactive now, so anything refined sugar wise is out.
Hope that helps?
Sally x
I had it pre-pregnancy about once a week and it is sometimes known as 'late stage dumping' in bypassers. Its basically as it says on the tin, you eat something sugar filled and 1-4 hours later it hits your intestine. It makes your insulin levels rise to combat the sugar and then once it has done that - your insuling levels are too high and your blood sugar drops to low. Im sure a diabetic can correct me, but my hospital have told me blood sugar counts should be between 4 and 8. Mine are consistantly below 2 which my monitor will not read.
Now I am pregnant its gotten worse and I was CONSTANTLY drinking litres of lucozade and having dextrose tablets to keep levels up (instead of eating sugar to cause this, it was literally eating anything) and then having to have a coplex carb, but as a bypasser I was struggling to get the carb in after a litre of lucozade.
I have now been put on medication which no one in the UK has been put on whilst pregnant, so I am being treated as a guinnea pig for future bypassers that get pregnant with lots of reports being written about me and the side effects.
The meds keep glucose in my bowel longers so the insilun levels dont rise and fall as much.
The worst side effect is I am unable to eat or drink ANYTHING with sugar in. No matter what. At the start I couldnt even eat fruit, but it doesnt seem to be as reactive now, so anything refined sugar wise is out.
Hope that helps?
Sally x
thanks sal huni, so basically as a bypasser i shouldnt really eat anything with too much sugar in anyway, but some ppl react even to small amounts, would that be about right? what if say, i ate something higher than normal in sugar, but had carbs with it, would that help to lesson the chance of it happening. sorry huni, im just one of them ppl that initially find things hard to grasp, but then it seems to 'click' and i understand it, lol. hugs xx
salski
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Well I was nearly 8 months post op when it affected me, and to be honest it wasnt that bad pre-pregnancy and when feeling shakey/sweaty, a little piece of fruit followed by a piece of toast helped....it was only bad when pregnant and there is nothing you can do, eat pre or post sugar...nothing worked! LOL xx
BlueDiamond
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I found this info on wikipedia - HTH xxx
Reactive hypoglycemia or Postprandial hypoglycemia, is a medical term describing recurrent episodes of symptomatic hypoglycemia occurring 2–4 hours after a high carbohydrate meal (or oral glucose load). It is thought to represent a consequence of excessive insulin release triggered by the carbohydrate meal but continuing past the digestion and disposal of the glucose derived from the meal.
The prevalence of this condition is difficult to ascertain and controversial, because a number of stricter or looser definitions have been used, and because many healthy, asymptomatic people can have glucose tolerance test patterns said to be characteristic of reactive hypoglycemia. It has been proposed that the term reactive hypoglycemia be reserved for the pattern of postprandial hypoglycemia which meets the Whipple criteria (symptoms correspond to measurably low glucose and are relieved by raising the glucose), and that the term idiopathic postprandial syndrome be used for similar patterns of symptoms where abnormally low glucose levels at the time of symptoms cannot be documented.
Reactive hypoglycemia or Postprandial hypoglycemia, is a medical term describing recurrent episodes of symptomatic hypoglycemia occurring 2–4 hours after a high carbohydrate meal (or oral glucose load). It is thought to represent a consequence of excessive insulin release triggered by the carbohydrate meal but continuing past the digestion and disposal of the glucose derived from the meal.
The prevalence of this condition is difficult to ascertain and controversial, because a number of stricter or looser definitions have been used, and because many healthy, asymptomatic people can have glucose tolerance test patterns said to be characteristic of reactive hypoglycemia. It has been proposed that the term reactive hypoglycemia be reserved for the pattern of postprandial hypoglycemia which meets the Whipple criteria (symptoms correspond to measurably low glucose and are relieved by raising the glucose), and that the term idiopathic postprandial syndrome be used for similar patterns of symptoms where abnormally low glucose levels at the time of symptoms cannot be documented.
thanks julie, thats helped a bit, i just wish they woudnt sort of go round the houses, and use normal words, lol. i keep reading it,and each time a bit more seems to sink in.
sal, that must be awful huni, hopefully it will all settle down once little elsie makes her appearance, but it must be so hard now, good luck huni, and big hugs xxxx
sal, that must be awful huni, hopefully it will all settle down once little elsie makes her appearance, but it must be so hard now, good luck huni, and big hugs xxxx
tesmaralda
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It can also happen when a meal high in simple carbs has been consumed because simple carbs start digesting and turn into sugar right from the minute they enter our mouths.
This is why we are advised to have a small amount of complex carbs such as brown rice or pasta, wholemeal bread or potatoes in their skins.
This is why we are advised to have a small amount of complex carbs such as brown rice or pasta, wholemeal bread or potatoes in their skins.
tesmaralda
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simple carbs are more things like white bread, white rice, normal pasta the things that most bypassers find it very hard to digest anyway early one.
If you are going to have some form of carb in your food I was tole it should be a complex or unrefined carb such as brown bread, brown pasta, wholemeal bread and either jacket potato or a new pot in their skins.
Most successful bypassers will only eat the carbs on their plate if they are still hungry after they have eaten their proetin and veg. Protein should m ake up the majoprity of a post op bypassers meal.
If you are going to have some form of carb in your food I was tole it should be a complex or unrefined carb such as brown bread, brown pasta, wholemeal bread and either jacket potato or a new pot in their skins.
Most successful bypassers will only eat the carbs on their plate if they are still hungry after they have eaten their proetin and veg. Protein should m ake up the majoprity of a post op bypassers meal.
tesmaralda
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Even 18 months post op I still make wrong choices and forget the basics. It is such a personal journey and at times a lonely one because you want to celebrate everyones sucesses but have to accept your own failings with out admiting ones true feelings about our own body shapes, the sucess of others, or ones own mistakes.
Any way enough of my drunken ramblings.
i know what you mean terri, im on my own, so rarely cook a proper meal, so i make do with egg or beans on toast, multigrain bread, or baked spuds with cheese n beans, i cant stand long enough to make many meals as im disabled and standing for more than a couple of minutes causes me intense pain, i usually have ryvitas with low fat cream cheese for lunch. but even now, i do forget to eat, its only when i feel ill that i remember sometimes.
thanks for your advice huni, it really has helped, hugs xx
thanks for your advice huni, it really has helped, hugs xx
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