• Hi, If you cannot get into the site, be sure to Contact Us. Please be advised that the app is no longer in use!

Sugar vs aspartame poisening?

bex j88

New Member
Hi all

I have been doing some research into aspartame poisoning and the general downsides to low sugar/sugar free products.

I see a lot of people recommend nas squash/jelly/etc. but, I don't necessarily think I'd want to use these products long term.


This is just my personal opinion, of course i expect the majority of you will champion sugar free and the benefits of it which I also understand and can see for the purpose of WLS. However, have any of you continued to use "normal" sugar products like squash desserts etc. and if so, do you think this has any great difference to using nas?

I hope this doesn't offend anyone, I don't want to cause upset or debate just interest in opinions!
Thanks in advance
Bex x
 
Last edited:
I have NAS simply because when you're on a limited amount of calories, it seems rather pointless wasting them on something when there is a no added sugar variety available. I also use sweetener in my tea as I find drinking it without any sort of sweetness just vile, I don't use sugar, again because of the wasted calories which I would much rather use on my main meals and food that I eat.
 
I have NAS because I have no choice. If I had full sugar drinks, I would be dumping all over the place. Saying that I have been drinking more tea and coffee lately.
 
I would be interested in your research into the effects of low sugar/sugar free products as I have also heard negatives around using these as alternatives to sugar. I was wondering whether honey could be (sparingly) used as a suitable natural alternative or whether that also causes problems? Thanks x x
 
I would be interested in your research into the effects of low sugar/sugar free products as I have also heard negatives around using these as alternatives to sugar. I was wondering whether honey could be (sparingly) used as a suitable natural alternative or whether that also causes problems? Thanks x x

If I want to sweeten something, I use agave nectar or honey.
 
I have always used a combination of low fat/low sugar/sugar alternatives, as well as normal syrup and honey (sparingly) ... I get awful stomach aches when using too much artificial sweetner ... :eek:
 
I found this NHS generated info quite comforting after all the hype re artificial sweeteners. As in everything else ... moderation is key :) xx


Information for Health Professionals

Sweeteners
The Use of Sweeteners in Foods
The use of sweeteners is tightly regulated. The Food Standards Agency
carries out work on all sweeteners to ensure that their presence in food does
not compromise food safety, and their safety must be approved before they
can be used. In Great Britain, the use of sweeteners in food is controlled by
the Sweeteners in Foods Regulations 1995, which specifies the types of foods
in which they may be used and the maximum level of usage. In the UK, it is
illegal to put anything in food that will injure health, and scientific work is
carried out to ensure that controls on additives are enforced
E Numbers
EU regulations require that most additives in foods are clearly labelled in the
ingredients list either by name, or by an E number. If an additive has an E
number, it means that it has passed safety tests and has been approved for
use here and in the rest of the European Union.
The Acceptable Daily Intake (ADI)
The ADI is the amount of a food additive that can be consumed daily
throughout life without health risks. It is a safe intake level that relates to a
persons body weight. People who consume a lot of artificially sweetened
products (especially children and people with diabetes) can have intakes that
approach ADI levels. It is therefore advisable that people who regularly
consume these products (particularly saccharin and cyclamates) choose
products containing a variety of different sweeteners to lessen the risk of
exceeding the ADI in any one of them.
Intense (non-nutritive) Sweeteners
These are compounds, which have the unique property of imparting an
intensely sweet flavour in minute amounts. Although some do have an
energy value, their caloric contribution to a food is negligible because they are
used in such small quantities. They are non-cariogenic, so have the additional
use as sweeteners in sugar-free chewing gum. Intense sweeteners are not
permitted for use in foods specifically prepared for babies and young children.
Examples include Saccharin, Aspartame, Acesulfame -K, Cyclamate and
Sucralose.
The Safety of Aspartame
Low-calorie sweeteners, including Aspartame are among the most
comprehensively investigated food additives ever, and have been assessed
by national and international regulatory bodies throughout the world, in all
cases they have concluded that Aspartame is safe.

Bulk (Nutritive) Sweeteners
These are sugar substitutes, which because they are used in similar
quantities to sugar, add bulk, and some of the properties of sugar, to foods.
Although, on a weight-for-weight basis, some provide less energy than sugar
all provide some carbohydrate and energy.
1. Fructose
Fructose is sometimes used as an alternative sweetener to sugar. Although it
has the same energy content as sugar, it is 1.5 times sweeter, so less is
needed for equivalent sweetness. However, for overweight people, the
potential energy saving is small. It was initially thought to be beneficial for
people with diabetes, since insulin is not required for its’ initial metabolism,
however any short-term glycaemic advantage is offset by potential adverse
effects on blood lipids and other metabolic parameters. In addition to this high
intakes can result in osmotic diarrhoea.
2. Sugar Alcohols
Although many of these occur in nature, they are classified as food additives,
and are therefore also controlled by the sweeteners in food regulations. Bulk
sweeteners that are commonly used are Sorbitol (E420), Mannitol (E421),
Isomalt (E953), Maltitol (E965), Lactitol (E966), Xylitol (E967).
Sugar alcohols are less well absorbed than other carbohydrates, and can
therefore cause side effects such as stomach cramps, flatulence and osmotic
diarrhoea. Individual tolerance varies and children are more likely to suffer
these side effects. Because of their reduced absorption, sugar alcohols
provide less energy (calories) when compared to other sugars. However,
they are half as sweet, so need to be used in larger quantities to create the
same degree of sweetness, thus negating any energy saving. Their slower
rate of absorption produces a smaller rise in post-prandial glycaemia, which is
why they were previously used as an alternative to sugar in specialist
"diabetic foods". But, like fructose any small benefit in this respect is far
outweighed by the many disadvantages associated with their use. In addition,
the need for such products can no longer be justified, since the need for total
dietary exclusion of sugar is no longer considered necessary for Diabetic
control. However, these bulk sweeteners are much less cariogenic than
sugar and fructose, and hence have a role in products such as sugar-free
chewing gum, sweets and toothpaste.
Compound Sweeteners
These are commercially made products marketed as an alternative to table
sugar. Most are mixtures of an intense sweetener with a carbohydrate, a bulk
sugar substitute and / or inert filler. Most are designed for use in drinks or on
foods and a few are suitable for use in baking. They vary considerably in
sweetness, and as a result, their nutritional profile and sweetening power vary
considerably. Although on a spoonful basis, they will provide less energy than
table sugar, the energy saving in absolute terms is often small and of
questionable significance in the context of total daily energy intake.
 
Another thing about Aspartame is it has a laxative effect. I have a diabetic child and his team advise against diabetic sweets/chocs and drinks etc because of the Aspartame in them and tell parents to give normal treats straight after a meal(to mix the sugar with the complex carbs)

I buy nas and make it up in my litre bottle because there is no alternative even flavoured water has it in. I too would dump if I had sugar but I suppose I could make the squash really weak like I do now
 
I use NAS squash and also siger free flavoured syrups to add to my greek yoghurt and 'treat' lattes. It saves me calories. I also eat sugar free sweets and mints.
Sometimes I think we just have to accept that whatever we put in our mouth can have a down side-even water isn't entirely pure.
I know sweetners are not ideal, but sugar is addictive, highly calorific and not good for me either.
 
I use NAS squash and also siger free flavoured syrups to add to my greek yoghurt and 'treat' lattes. It saves me calories. I also eat sugar free sweets and mints.
Sometimes I think we just have to accept that whatever we put in our mouth can have a down side-even water isn't entirely pure.
I know sweetners are not ideal, but sugar is addictive, highly calorific and not good for me either.

It's difficult isn't it to keep up to date - with foods that are good for us in one study and then bad for us in another. I've probably been eating horse meat for years without realising it anyway and goodness knows what else they put in to processed foods! Just goes to show you we can't trust labelling :/
 
Stevia seems to be the latest 'safe' artificial sweetener according to an article that Inread recently.

It's plant based.

I don't add sweeteners to tea or coffee but I have bought it for my husband to use instead of what he has now.
 
Stevia dies not taste nice at all. It has a really horrible after taste. The best thing I've found is agave nectar. Which was mentioned to me by someone on here, but I can't remember who :)
 
I disagree as I use Stevia and I don't find it has any aftertaste at all, I certainly wouldn't say that it doesn't taste nice at all - but as with everything its personal taste and finding what you do or don't like.
 
Back
Top