Has ayone had the surgeon tell them they are not suitable for surgery?

[lozzers_losing_weight]

Well as the title says really.
Most people talk about GP referals and funding but I dont think i have seen anything where the surgeon has said no.

Does it happen?

 

[j.u.s.t.l.i.z.]

hi lozzer it doesnt happen to private patients unless they have problems which would be very dangerous under aneastetic, nhs tends to say no more to people and the nhs guide lines is a bmi of 40+ but its becoming in more high demand on the nhs and different areas have upped there minimum bmi required to 50+ to keep there lists down, all areas are different and depends where you live.

liz x

 

[lozzers_losing_weight]

hi lozzer it doesnt happen to private patients unless they have problems which would be very dangerous under aneastetic, nhs tends to say no more to people and the nhs guide lines is a bmi of 40+ but its becoming in more high demand on the nhs and different areas have upped there minimum bmi required to 50+ to keep there lists down, all areas are different and depends where you live.

liz x

Thanks for the repy liz.

Am i not right in thinking that you only get referred if you meet the citeria anyways? And then you still get refused by the surgeon if he feels fit?

 

[j.u.s.t.l.i.z.]

yes thats right the surgeon has the final decision.

 

[Sambucca]

omg, that would be my worst nightmare. I can only hope that the surgeon would say yes if the GP has agreed to refer you in the first place unless there was some serious reason why surgery was not safe.

 

[weight loss hopeful]

I think its rare that a surgeon wud say no when a gp referred you. there wud need to be a really valid reason x

 

[Muppet]

What a nightmare this PCT stuff is. I wish i could fund everyone (and myself) and then we could tell them to go stuff themselves.

 

[serenitylove]

my surgeon wont see you till funding in place so by that point you must ft criteria and dont say no

 

[gingernutter]

At my hospital a patient needs to get past the dietitian and a psychologist as well as the consultant. If they decide you are not suitable for any reason it can add years to your case. I know of 2 people who have waited 2 years. It is very hard to get this surgery in Luton.

Look at me.....a BMI of 50.3 and I am still waiting for funding!

 

[j.u.s.t.l.i.z.]

At my hospital a patient needs to get past the dietitian and a psychologist as well as the consultant. If they decide you are not suitable for any reason it can add years to your case. I know of 2 people who have waited 2 years. It is very hard to get this surgery in Luton.

Look at me.....a BMI of 50.3 and I am still waiting for funding!

yes all areas are different, i had to see a dietician also, i was put on xenical by the surgeon, if i didnt loose weight then he could refuse surgery, as the point was if i cant show a short term commitment to loose weight to better my chances on the op table, then how could i commit long term to wls, once some form of comitment is shown i then had approval for my op.

 

[hopelesscase]

My understanding is that 3 proffessionals have to agree for me it was the endocrainologist, psycologist and surgeon.
HC

 

[gingernutter]

I know what you mean HC, I have the written recommendation of a consultant cardiologist, a consultant in respiratory medicine, an endocrinologist, and the obesity surgeon himself and STILL they won't fund me! YET! fingers crossed!

I met someone last week who has been turned down as she can not show her commitment to weight loss. She is still trying, she already has the funding in place.

Another reason someone might get turned down is if they were not mentally stable. I know a women who waited 2 years for that reason.

I think all hospitals are different. You shouldn't have any problems. It will happen that NOT everyone is suitable but look on the bright side. I am!

 

[charliegirl]

I only saw the consultant and the surgeon....xx

 

[Alia]

I was referred to the surgeon by my GP and only saw the Consultant and a dietician. It seems so wrong that things are determined by a postcode lottery

 

[gingernutter]

I have wrote to my MP and she wrote back to me to explain how it works in my area.

I wrote to her again this time I asked her to ask the health minister why there is this post code lottery and to tell her it isn't fair. She is working on a reply for me. I am looking forward to a reply. I will let you know what she says.

 

[charliegirl]

How about if everyone from all the different areas started to sign a petition we could send it to the health minister. Might not do anything but you never know....there are plenty of folk on here and I am sure we could get a good cross section.....xx

 

[Muppet]

I think its worth a try Charliegirl, do you think there's a possibility that it would shake up these PCT people? They seem to be a law unto themselves. I suppose there's only so much money in the pot, but dont we all pay NHS fees in our salaries.

 

[LizzieBee]

There are a few websites where you can do an online petition. Not sure of the rules about other site links though.
Lxx

 

[On a mission]

I know what you mean HC, I have the written recommendation of a consultant cardiologist, a consultant in respiratory medicine, an endocrinologist, and the obesity surgeon himself and STILL they won't fund me! YET! fingers crossed!

I met someone last week who has been turned down as she can not show her commitment to weight loss. She is still trying, she already has the funding in place.

Another reason someone might get turned down is if they were not mentally stable. I know a women who waited 2 years for that reason.

I think all hospitals are different. You shouldn't have any problems. It will happen that NOT everyone is suitable but look on the bright side. I am!

Hi, :wave_cry: dont want to hijack your blog but can I just ask, as this is 1 of my fears, what would you think constitutes as not showing commitment to weight loss. As I am only 22 I feel that they will see me as looking for an easy option by using my age against me saying I have not tried enough diets to be considered for NHS funding. How would they even categorise commitment? :sigh: