Rule breaking

[yorkiegal]

omg i think i do my shopping whilst asleep! Went to the supermarket today and pepsi max 8 can pack was buy one get one free. Got home and unpacked my shopping and suddenly remembered that I'm giving the evil stuff up. So now it's in my neighbour's fridge

Must stick to a shopping list in future.

 

[Yvessa]

My GP was the person who said it was still okay to drink pepsi max, but you had to wait a little until it was a fair bit flatter. He has had a couple of other patients with bypasses who he says has managed just fine.

I would never suggest you go against your professional's advice however; am just passing on what I've been told!

Yve

 

[Yvessa]

quoted

http://drsimpson.net/07_surgery_stories%20%28ss%29/7_ss_02/RNY/RNY.htm

Carbonated Drinks

—a real problem, or a solution.

Many surgeons do not allow their patients to drink carbonated beverages. There is a little bit of fact here, and a lot of fiction. The facts are fairly simple: most carbonated beverages are very high in sugar or in carbohydrates. Many patients find it hard to give them up, however. I had one lovely lady who underwent the RNY and quickly lost weight, but then she stopped losing for a while. She came back to see me, after having stretched her pouch to over 20 ounces, and wanted a revision. She admitted to drinking about 40 ounces of Coke® a day. I told her once she stopped drinking the cola we would reverse the surgery for her. She never returned.
When you drink carbonated beverages, the concern is that the gas from the carbonation will stretch out your pouch. However, the pouch is NOT an isolated closed bit of stomach. It has two openings, and if you have some gas it will pass one way or the other. Nevertheless, for safety sake—if your surgeon says no carbonation—then do not drink carbonated beverages.
No matter what, DO NOT DRINK CARBONATED BEVERAGES for six weeks or longer after your surgery unless instructed by your physician.


Hope this helps you make you own decision!

 

[Karlos]

Not really. It doesn't look at the science or nutritional evidence regarding caffeine or artificial sweeteners at all, and is a bit of a joke to be honest. Surely no one really believes that carbonated drinks could stretch a pouch with two openings and only a complete plonker would drink full fat coke etc post op. If you or your GP are basing your decision regarding post op hydration on that you might want to do some real research hun x

Thanks

 

[Yvessa]

I think its unfortunate that you choose to be insulting when you don't agree with someone elses information or opinion. I think if you re-read my posts, I have clearly stated that I would never recommend anyone ignore their teams advice.

I believe, however, that many of us come here to discuss each others experiences and lifestyle changes. At no point have I said that you are wrong, nor have I said that "you might want to do some real research".

I respect that you have had different advice and don't expect you to patronise me for passing on what I've been told. Surely that's not what these forums are here for?

Regards,

Yve

 

[yorkiegal]

Not really. It doesn't look at the science or nutritional evidence regarding caffeine or artificial sweeteners at all, and is a bit of a joke to be honest. Surely no one really believes that carbonated drinks could stretch a pouch with two openings and only a complete plonker would drink full fat coke etc post op. If you or your GP are basing your decision regarding post op hydration on that you might want to do some real research hun x

Thanks

Karlos, I know things can appear different when written down rather than spoken, but I really do wish you'd be less sanctimonius and condescending in your manner. It seems to be almost a daily event for you to insult a forum member at present.

 

[Mazza]

I should point out that the email quote has been proven to be a hoax. There has been no scientific evidence for any of these.

This email has been doing the rounds since 1998 apparantly


Good luck with giving it up Jaxx and Yorkiegal x

 

[Karlos]

Karlos, I know things can appear different when written down rather than spoken, but I really do wish you'd be less sanctimonius and condescending in your manner. It seems to be almost a daily event for you to insult a forum member at present.

It wasn't my intention to insult anyone I was merely commenting on the information provided by the website, and the clear lack of specialist knowledge of Yvessa's GP in thinking Pepsi Max is acceptable as a drink post op. Sharing information is one thing but when it promotes bad choices as Yvessa's posts appeared to me to have done its important that the facts are established

You might be right Yorkiegal so in the spirit of forum harmony I'm going to take a break from posting here. I have enough to worry about to be worried about upsetting the sensibilities of people I don't know other than through a chuffin internet forum.

 

[jema]

I received the e-mail a while ago and when I read it, there was so much of it I could relate to. I have given up caffeine free, diet coke and a lot of the symptons seem to have subsided. I drink quite a bit of coffee, not de-caff, and the symptons haven't returned, so in my opinion, the artificial sweetener was to blame. Therefore, I agree with what is in the e-mail, but am not qualified to say why, or if, it is so.
Good luck to anyone giving it, or anything else, up. x

 

[Fashionably Late]

Good luck giving it up. I have been struggling with diet coke lately and it is killing me. I did call my surgeon, Mr Ammori, and he said whilst it wouldn't stretch my pouch it isn't healthy and I shouldn't be doing this to my body. So I have given it up cold turkey and it is hard.

 

[jaxx]

I was very good today. Work is usually the time when I crave coke zero the most but I managed without any today. I just had coffee and redbush tea.

 

[yorkiegal]

Well done hon. I was naughty and gave in last night and had a can. Woke up 3am with very painful trapped wind so have just stuck to coffee since. Will get there eventually.

 

[jema]

Well done. It's hard, but you'll find it easier as you go on.

 

[Stellap]

Ive never been comfortable with diet drinks as I do feel they stimulate my appetite and would like to know if there have been any scientific papers on studies done - I don't think gps are qualified enough on the subject to give me a qualified opinion (my doctor is overweight and addicted to the stuff so I wouldn't listen to him in any event). I changed over to Adam's ale after the surgery and through all my various diets and reading up on nutrition I think the further we get away from natural food/drink that our bodies were designed to process is when we get into problems - we have more low fat/low sugar/processed foods than ever before and also an obesity epidemic and I think the two are linked. I'm a firm believe is cook from scratch or stay as close to natural as possible to get the best health. I'd love to see any results of geniuine studies accepted by the scientific community on this artificial sweetner though.

 

[jema]

Ive never been comfortable with diet drinks as I do feel they stimulate my appetite and would like to know if there have been any scientific papers on studies done - I don't think gps are qualified enough on the subject to give me a qualified opinion (my doctor is overweight and addicted to the stuff so I wouldn't listen to him in any event). I changed over to Adam's ale after the surgery and through all my various diets and reading up on nutrition I think the further we get away from natural food/drink that our bodies were designed to process is when we get into problems - we have more low fat/low sugar/processed foods than ever before and also an obesity epidemic and I think the two are linked. I'm a firm believe is cook from scratch or stay as close to natural as possible to get the best health. I'd love to see any results of geniuine studies accepted by the scientific community on this artificial sweetner though.

Don't know about scientific studies, but I started a new lifestyle 14 weeks ago and have lost 3 stone to date (get weighed again tomorrow). I have cut out any drinks other than black tea/coffee and water, no processed foods, no frozen foods, no ready meals/takeaways, etc. I eat meats from the butcher rather than pre-packed and lots of fresh, seasonal fruit and veg. I still have the odd biscuit or choccy bar if I fancy it, but that seems to be getting less often.
So, I would agree with you, Stella. If we go closer to natural again, it can only help.

 

[Debbieq1966]

I've religiously stuck to not having anything fizzy since my op 2.5 yrs ago. On Friday carrying my Mum's drink I managed to get a bit on my hand (diet coke) and licked it to stop it going over my dress (hands full) - it tasted horrible.... If only chocolate was the same...