Did you read that article I posted above Kirsty. The figures are over 5 years. No way can any surgeon get real experience with a share of those figures. E.g. Average of 1 op a week over 5 years in Edinburgh and Glasgow.. Not done by a single surgeon.. So, think about it. What we need is a UK centre of excellence .. Only politics gets in the way. Private surgery in UK is overpriced, whatever the discipline. My Belgian experience of two ops was excellent, its not cheap, it's the going rate over there, its just cheaper than UK. There was talk about setting up a bariatric unit at the Golden Jubilee, thats a few years ago.. They still haven't hired anyone to head the unit. Shameful. Obesity is rising here. Ps they also have a cut-off of age 60 I believe.