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Weightloss surgery yey or ney !

Diva

Cambridge Diet Counsellor
Really, really interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing, hun...:)
 

kandy

New Member
Thanks DQ and Diva,

Well today i have checked out a few more websites chatted to a few DS'ers and here are my thoughts ,
I am very concerned about the side effect of foul smelling wind and stools . I suppose on the grand scale of things it doesn't seem too bad but they can last for 2 years for some !

Also part of my maintenence will be drinking lots of water and taking protein shakes mmmmmm sounds familiar !

I figure if i can sign up for a lifetime of that why cant i SS !!!

So i would say i am slightly disillusioned by the idea of surgery today !

xxx
 

Roch

Shrinking away nicely :)
Hi Kandy, Mr Patel has a very good reputation and many peeps on the weight loss surgery website have had their opps done by Mr Patel through Nhs and Private so you are def in good hands there.
Here is the link to the forum and they offer so much help and support to help you through all the stages of your journey.

WLSInfo - unreg

Kandy i understand how u feel 100% about surgery being the last chance for you and 2 be honest surgery is always at the back if my mind and i have done alot of research in to having a gastric bypass operation and i have also been in touch with a specialist.

Hun we r all here to help and support you and hold your hand through this journey.
Looking forward to chatting 2 u soon and see how your app went with Mr Patel.
Take care xx
 
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kandy

New Member
Hey Roch ,
Thank you for your support xx

I have just had a blazing row with hubby he thinks that surgery would be a waste of money ( he has never had a weight problem so doesn't understand my urgency to lose weight !)

I have checked some more and here is some info i found which i will post here so i know i haven't lost it lol !

Love to all XXX


Comparison of effects of gastric bypass and biliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch on weight loss and body composition 1-2 years after surgery.

* Strain GW,
* Gagner M,
* Inabnet WB,
* Dakin G,
* Pomp A.

Weill College of Medicine of Cornell University, New York, New York.

BACKGROUND: Gastric bypass (GB) is the most common surgical procedure for weight loss in the United States. Biliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch (BPD/DS) is less routinely performed, perhaps because of its technical difficulty and metabolic concerns. The objective of this study was to determine whether these procedures had differential effects on weight loss and body composition. METHODS: Body composition was measured by bioimpedance (Tanita 310) at the initial consultation, and follow-up measurements were completed 1-2 years after surgery. RESULTS: Of the 72 patients in the study, 50, aged 46.2 +/- 8.5 years, had undergone GB and were measured 15.5 +/- 5.2 months after surgery and 22, aged 40.6 +/- 7.9 years, had undergone BPD/DS and were measured 19.5 +/- 7.5 months after surgery. Patient age and time after surgery were significantly different between the 2 groups. The body mass index (BMI) for the BPD/DS group was 53.6 +/- 11.9 kg/m(2), significantly greater than the BMI of the GB group (48.0 +/- 6.3 kg/m(2); P = .009). However, the percentage of body fat did not differ between the 2 groups (P = .515). Postoperatively, the BMIs for the GB group (31.5 +/- 5.0 kg/m(2)) and BPD/DS group (30.3 +/- 6.1 kg/m(2)) were not significantly different (P = .384) [Because the GB patients had started at a lower BMI. Added for clarification.] The percentage of body fat for the GB and BPD/DS groups had changed from 49.2% +/- 8.3% to 32.1% +/- 10.6% and 47.9% +/- 5.9% to 23.8% +/- 10.4%, respectively (P = .002).

The BMI had decreased by 16.5 +/- 4.8 kg/m(2)after GB and 23.3 +/- 6.8 kg/m(2) after BPD/DS (P <.001). The decrease in fat was 17.1% +/- 8.2% after GB and 24.2% +/- 7.2% after BPD/DS (P <.001).
CONCLUSION: The BPD/DS procedure is more effective in reducing the BMI and promoting fat loss than is GB. The assessment of the impact of these two operations on an individualized basis offers additional information to assist in the evaluation of these procedures.

 

Isis

New Member
Hey Roch ,
Thank you for your support xx

I have just had a blazing row with hubby he thinks that surgery would be a waste of money ( he has never had a weight problem so doesn't understand my urgency to lose weight !)

I have checked some more and here is some info i found which i will post here so i know i haven't lost it lol !

Love to all XXX


Comparison of effects of gastric bypass and biliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch on weight loss and body composition 1-2 years after surgery.

* Strain GW,
* Gagner M,
* Inabnet WB,
* Dakin G,
* Pomp A.

Weill College of Medicine of Cornell University, New York, New York.

BACKGROUND: Gastric bypass (GB) is the most common surgical procedure for weight loss in the United States. Biliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch (BPD/DS) is less routinely performed, perhaps because of its technical difficulty and metabolic concerns. The objective of this study was to determine whether these procedures had differential effects on weight loss and body composition. METHODS: Body composition was measured by bioimpedance (Tanita 310) at the initial consultation, and follow-up measurements were completed 1-2 years after surgery. RESULTS: Of the 72 patients in the study, 50, aged 46.2 +/- 8.5 years, had undergone GB and were measured 15.5 +/- 5.2 months after surgery and 22, aged 40.6 +/- 7.9 years, had undergone BPD/DS and were measured 19.5 +/- 7.5 months after surgery. Patient age and time after surgery were significantly different between the 2 groups. The body mass index (BMI) for the BPD/DS group was 53.6 +/- 11.9 kg/m(2), significantly greater than the BMI of the GB group (48.0 +/- 6.3 kg/m(2); P = .009). However, the percentage of body fat did not differ between the 2 groups (P = .515). Postoperatively, the BMIs for the GB group (31.5 +/- 5.0 kg/m(2)) and BPD/DS group (30.3 +/- 6.1 kg/m(2)) were not significantly different (P = .384) [Because the GB patients had started at a lower BMI. Added for clarification.] The percentage of body fat for the GB and BPD/DS groups had changed from 49.2% +/- 8.3% to 32.1% +/- 10.6% and 47.9% +/- 5.9% to 23.8% +/- 10.4%, respectively (P = .002).

The BMI had decreased by 16.5 +/- 4.8 kg/m(2)after GB and 23.3 +/- 6.8 kg/m(2) after BPD/DS (P <.001). The decrease in fat was 17.1% +/- 8.2% after GB and 24.2% +/- 7.2% after BPD/DS (P <.001).
CONCLUSION: The BPD/DS procedure is more effective in reducing the BMI and promoting fat loss than is GB. The assessment of the impact of these two operations on an individualized basis offers additional information to assist in the evaluation of these procedures.

Thanks for posting all this info Kandy...x
 

Roch

Shrinking away nicely :)
Hi kandy, hun sorry u have had a row with your hubby about wls. I understand what u r saying about urgency as i have 18 stone 2 lose and i am desperate 2 lose weight and of course i want to lose it all now but realistically that is not going to happen.

With wls it will still take u around a year to lose your weight as well so time scale wise they are about the same.
I have a friend who had a Duodenal switch op and because she weighed 28 stone they did the op in 2 parts becuase it was safer that way.
She had her op in overseas and once she had lost around 6/7 stone she went back for the second part of the op.
She has done very well and lost her weight.

Hun pls dont feel i am trying to be negative about wls as i am not and like i said b4 its always at the back of my mind, but could u not possibly try Cd or another vlcd again.
You would lose your weight within a year as well and not have any added risks or side effects.
I myself am starting Cd again today, i am not allowed to SS yet as i have some helath problems but Cd head office and my gp have both allowed me 2 start at 1200 and work my way down.

Kandy i do understand exactly how u feel 100% i also had some very close family of mine disaggreeing with me wanting to have wls but it was only because they loved me and were worried for me.
Could that be the reason why your hubby got into an argument with you he must be worrried for u as u want to have such a major op.

Kandy what ever decsion u make we all be here 2 l support u 100% and if u want a weight loss buddy no matter what path u choose then we can support each other.
Take care hun and have a good week.
 
Hi Kandy

Just wanted to offer my support - WLS does work, but its not just about the physical - you definitely need to have some counselling as you are losing your weight. When I reasearched a DS the only thing that slightly concerned me was getting your vitamins and minerals? Do you have to take supplements?

Out of interest - why did you come to a DS instead of one of the other forms of WLS?
 

kandy

New Member
Hey Roch ,
Thanks for the PM i have e-mailed you xx

Hey HTP,
Yes after a DS your vitamin levels have to be regularly monitored so you are recieving the correct supplements at the right time !

The reason i chose DS is because i researched to the best of my ability i have joined many many WLS forums to hear the good and bad and i just feel that the information i have found made me feel that i have more chance of success with the DS with the least amount of side effects also very low fatality rate and after care is better than the others !
BUT
And its a big but (else why would i be here)lol
You are right about the head stuff i have to sort that out before i can battle the weight problem .

Great to let this stuff out anything else you wanna know i will be happy to answer although i have to say i am not medically trained or anything so nothing too technical lol x

Bye love Julie xxx
 
Thanks Kandy! Same goes -I had a gastric band fitted in 2000 so if you want to pick my brains about that one feel free!

That is how i know without a doubt that the physical journey is only a small part of it!

I presume the the weight loss peters out when all your fat reserves have been used? I always wondered with a GP how the body knows to stop losing weight?
 

kandy

New Member
Hey HTP,
One of the downsides to the DS is you can't stop the loss some of the women i spoke with are around 7-8 stone and desperately re-feeding to gain, that scared me must admit !

How did you get on with your band i have heard a fair few horror stories which put me off the band but there were successes to luck of the draw i guess !

Take care Julie xxx
 
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