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jodie 79

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Hi to all...i have just stumbled on this site & thought i would say hello & ask for a bit advice...my gp had requested funding from the norwich pct for bariatric surgery for me but i have been declinded because they dont think i will beneifit from having it more than the avarage patient but with a bmi of 52.5 i disagree!!!! at the mo im trying to put an appeal letter together has anyone got any advice to what i can put in it..my gp needs it by wednesday as she is doing the appeal papers
 
Hi Jodie and welcome to the site. I cant help with your problem but i do sympathise with you love. Hope you get the funding that you so rightly deserve. Someone will be along soon with some advice im sure x
 
Hi to all...i have just stumbled on this site & thought i would say hello & ask for a bit advice...my gp had requested funding from the norwich pct for bariatric surgery for me but i have been declinded because they dont think i will beneifit from having it more than the avarage patient but with a bmi of 52.5 i disagree!!!! at the mo im trying to put an appeal letter together has anyone got any advice to what i can put in it..my gp needs it by wednesday as she is doing the appeal papers





I wrote an appeal letter too

Thank you for your quick response to my request for WLS funding. I am however, understandably very disappointed at your refusal, and wish to appeal this decision.
The prime reason for my appeal is that my BMI is 50.8, not 49.5 as previously stated. This qualifies me for WLS funding according to your own criteria. When I talked to my GP and the form was filled in, my weight was checked, but not my height. My height is actually 5’6", thereby giving me a BMI of 50.8.
I have added below, other relevant information, which I hope will also strengthen my appeal.
Family history. My family, mother, father, 2 brothers and 6 nephews all suffer from actual or potential heart problems. We all have very high cholesterol levels, mine being 10.6+ without statins, and 5.6 with (still high). My parents died from heart attacks, one brother and 2 nephews have already had mild heart attacks in their late thirties, and one brother had to have a stent inserted as he had a blocked artery. My family was used as part of a Family Heart Study to detect early heart disease, at Leeds General Infirmary in 2002. I have shown that I have a high potential of suffering heart disease in the future, and that if my excess weight can be reduced quickly, this potential would be greatly reduced.
My weight loss history. I have never been slim, however I kept my weight fairly well under control by diet and exercise. I was a PE teacher for 15 years, and was very fit, but still had to constantly diet to keep my weight under control. When I was 35 both of my Achilles Tendons were damaged – I had to sit for 6 months, not putting any weight on my feet, having physiotherapy. During this 6 months I put on 3 stone. I didn’t eat anything different, but just could not exercise at all. I was unable to exercise fully after this time, and as a consequence I have been battling my weight ever since.
I have been yo yo dieting for as long as I can remember, years of slimming clubs, I have been a member of them all repeatedly. I have tried doctors diet sheets, and I have even tried hypnotism. I gave up smoking, and the weight increased yet again, and I have also tried Reductil to no effect.
I know what I should be doing, and I can lose weight, but I cannot keep the weight off for any substantial period, as I am now physically unable to exercise. I have been referred to a physiotherapist by my GP, but found that the excess weight caused severe pain in my joints. The surgery and following weight loss would help me get moving again, take part in exercise and not be housebound.

Physical effects. High Cholesterol, painful arthritis in my knee and hip joints, where my hip is almost bone on bone at this time. I have been recommended to eventually have a hip replacement by my GP, but if I could lose a substantial amount of weight I am convinced that the operation would be safer if I still need it after weight loss, or possibly averted all together. I also have neck pain, and shoulder pain. I now have poor posture, can not stand or walk without support. I suffer backaches, am short of breath and suffer bladder incontinence.

Mental effects. Low self-esteem, anxiety, no confidence, no will power. I feel withdrawn from life, depressed about my weight problems, no interest in anyone or anything. I don’t leave the house, and I suffer anxiety at the idea of having to go out.
I am sure that all of the above information will result in a positive decision on funding for WLS Surgery for me, and I look forward to hearing from you in the near future.
Yours Faithfully

I won my appeal, but only on the fact that I need a hip replacement, no the reason. Try to be very factual about any illnesses you already have, and emphasise the fact that they don't meet the Nice or Scotland guidelines. Don't play on the emotional side - they will just ignore it.
Your list of reasons for wanting a bypass are all emotional - emphasise from a different point of view:
Healthy heart
Ability to exercise
Less pressure on joints and muscles to help prevent arthritis in later life.
Improved sleep patterns
Quality of life

Hope this helps
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This is an appeal letter by vron which I think is brilliant so take relevant bits out of this.

good luck

Linski xx

PS - Hope you dont mind Vron?
xx
 
i was refused 3 times by my local pct, but i didnt give up and eventually they gave in and granted me the funding...dont give up, keep fighting it and it will come...it took me 18 months to finally get my funding but it as been worth it so far..im only 5 weeks post op after having a band, had a few minor hiccups but thanks to the great support and advice on this site im coming to terms with everything....good luck, fingers crossed for you
 
thank you all so much...i did borrow a couple of things from it & also had help from a friend here it is see what you think... Dear Panel,
I am writing in the hope I can appeal to you to reconsider your previous decision.
In your letter you declined me on the grounds that you are unable to find evidence of “exceptionality“. With a body mass of 52.5 I believe I am an exception as this size is not the “norm” You also state that I am unlikely to gain significantly any benefit from the intervention than might be expected from the average patient but surely everyone is an individual and should be assessed on their own merit. I believe your comment to be an assumption as this could not be proven without having the surgery. In my belief having bariatric surgery can only be a positive move towards my weight management after trying for so many years myself, and with the pharmacological interventions.

The National Institute for Clinical Excellence states the risks of having a BMI over 30, there is a 50% chance of mortality, and with a BMI of over 35.4 the chances are therefore doubled again. My Grandfather died of heart disease, and my father has currently suffered 3 heart attacks and continues to be unstable, with the input of stints. I fear with the family history that I’m also at risk. The NICE guidance continues to discuss that woman with a BMI of 29 or more are 3 times more like to suffer with this.

Growing from a child into adolescence, my weight had significant detriments on me making friends, therefore I found it hard to socialise and I isolated myself. Now into my adulthood I have battled with my weight without success, which I feel may cause me significant health problems in the future. Cancer and heart disease is hereditary in my family and also morbid obesity is a life threatening disease which would then in turn put extra financial strain on the NHS in years to come.
Due to my obesity I have found it hard to maintain physical activities with my children, and maintaining a job. I feel I have a high potential of suffering either of the above in the future, and that if my excess weight can be minimised quickly, this potential would be greatly reduced. Having such a weight problem effects my mental health as well as the physical I suffer from Low self-esteem, anxiety, lack in confidence and no will power. At times I feel withdrawn from life, depressed about my weight, with no interest in socialising or completing tasks.

On a few occasions during pregnancy and other medical appointments, several different health professionals has asked if I would consider bariatric surgery, so in theory they must have thought that I was an ideal candidate in order to address my weight.
At the moment I do suffer with minor ailments such as varicose veins and Plantar Fasciitis which is restricting the amount of exercise I can do which is contributing to my weight problem. I’m in a lot of pain all of the time, which no pain killer seems to have effect, a doctor within my surgery said my weight hasn’t helped the situation. I haven’t got diabetes and nor have I been tested for this or sleep apnoea, but my weight does exaggerate these current symptoms.
As I mentioned in my previous letter to the panel, over many years I have seeked the help from my GP and have tried many of diets with groups such as: slimming world, weight watchers and prescribed diet pills (Oralstat/Xenical) with no sufficient stable outcomes. Although I have maintained my weight now for many years, I have real concerns about the risk of contracting heart disease, type II Diabetes and other health conditions which are associated with Morbid Obesity.

I want to be a mother for my children, and be there for them and as it stands now my weight is preventing me in doing so. I’m afraid to say I may not be around long enough to watch them grow up into the fantastic people I know they will become, so I would like you to re consider and review my case, please. I’m hoping the above information will result in a positive decision, and I’ll look forward to hearing from you soon.

Yours faithfully
 
hi all just an update 2 years on...ive been accepted for tier 3 weight management for 6 months...so at least its a step in the right direction...fingers crossed for wls in the future :)
 
hi jodie

i really feel for you as i know how hard life can be when you are overweight and how can these people who make these life changing decisions for you think they know best. only you can do that. you know yourself and i bet if anyone of them were to walk in your shoes for a day and i bet they would change their minds. keep fighting you'll get there and the prize will be worth it. good luck and keep in touch. i live just down the road from you in lowestoft. have only just started this journey myself.


Angela
 
thats good ...keep going ...u will get there xxx
 
Thank u for all your positive feedback :0) good luck too u all too big hugs x
 
i was refused 3 times by my local pct, but i didnt give up and eventually they gave in and granted me the funding...dont give up, keep fighting it and it will come...it took me 18 months to finally get my funding but it as been worth it so far..im only 5 weeks post op after having a band, had a few minor hiccups but thanks to the great support and advice on this site im coming to terms with everything....good luck, fingers crossed for you

Hi hun hope u dont mind me asking how did you get on with mr Nijjar ? i got him doing my bypass on 21th march at heartlands he looks young lol very nervous bout it all thanks zoe
 
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