Question for us girls or boys who sit down :)

[dreamofbeingslim]

I hate using public toilets and only use them if absolutely desperate. I also try not to touch any handrails in public places or door handles if it can be avoided. I think sometimes I have ocd when it comes to hand washing.

 

[Roch]

I hate using public toilets and only use them if absolutely desperate. I also try not to touch any handrails in public places or door handles if it can be avoided. I think sometimes I have ocd when it comes to hand washing.

Lol u and me together Sharon, i dont like using the toilets and if have to out of desperation, i wash my hands then if cant avoid touching handles on the way out use my gel omg how bad does that sound, but so many people are so dirty and dont wash their hands i dont want their germs as well as mine lol xx

 

[Rebirth]

What about the toilet flusher and the taps? Do you wipe those before
flushing and turning off? I usually have some tissues that I use to do this. In reality you will get more contamination on those and the locks than the seat. At least your bottom is covered up afterwards...

Rebirth

 

[pinkladyMK]

You may not have this problem at all. After the cathetar is removed, some hospitals like you to pee into a bedpan - made of thick card stuff. They like to measure the fluids! You won't poo for a few days, so no worries there 'til you get home. x x x

hi just thought i would add thet they bring ya a commode at the whit babes untill ur totally stable on ur feet thats wot kirsten told me anyway xxxxxxxxx

 

[Karlos]

Snow Crystal is right about toilet paper giving little or no protection against bacterial cross infection. Hutchinson's law states that the absorbency of tissue paper makes it useless as a barrier against paths of cross infection.

To be honest you are more likely to be infected by other contact areas such as the taps and even the toilet or bathroom exit door handles.

Deposits of bacteria that build up inside the flushing rim that then contaminate the water in the toilet bowl is another path of cross infection. Especially if you are splashed by the water when doing a number two, or you stand by the toilet when it flushes as it will produce aerosols that could contain viable bacteria.

Washing your hands properly is vital, and that means not touching the taps after you have soaped your hands, as doing so recontaminates your hands.

Also after you have left the location use the hand gel to kill any bacteria located on the door handles.

My company are hygiene services specialists hence my anaoraky knowledge of all things microbiological

 

[pinkladyMK]

great info karlos xxxxxxxxxxx

 

[Lady_in_London]

I think by the time you are ready to do a number 2, you will be well enough to use the toilet seat cover and hand gel etc. Toilets will be cleaned several times a day on the ward. You probably also need to be aware of door handles etc after washing your hands, and what I always do is turn off taps after handwashing with a paper towel and use another paper towel to open the main door after and discard that. However, you just have to touch your bedframe or chair etc and germs can be on that. You can't avoid germs completely and hopefully the cleaning will be done regularly and efficiently. What you mustn't do is touch wounds both to avoid infecting others and also bringing infection from other germs into your wounds.

 

[Roch]

Snow Crystal is right about toilet paper giving little or no protection against bacterial cross infection. Hutchinson's law states that the absorbency of tissue paper makes it useless as a barrier against paths of cross infection.

To be honest you are more likely to be infected by other contact areas such as the taps and even the toilet or bathroom exit door handles.

Deposits of bacteria that build up inside the flushing rim that then contaminate the water in the toilet bowl is another path of cross infection. Especially if you are splashed by the water when doing a number two, or you stand by the toilet when it flushes as it will produce aerosols that could contain viable bacteria.

Washing your hands properly is vital, and that means not touching the taps after you have soaped your hands, as doing so recontaminates your hands.

Also after you have left the location use the hand gel to kill any bacteria located on the door handles.

My company are hygiene services specialists hence my anaoraky knowledge of all things microbiological

Lol what have i started xx

 

[Roch]

hi just thought i would add thet they bring ya a commode at the whit babes untill ur totally stable on ur feet thats wot kirsten told me anyway xxxxxxxxx

Lovely well i will be stable from the min them catheter comes out my fat arse wont fit on a camode lmao x

 

[Roch]

I think by the time you are ready to do a number 2, you will be well enough to use the toilet seat cover and hand gel etc. Toilets will be cleaned several times a day on the ward. You probably also need to be aware of door handles etc after washing your hands, and what I always do is turn off taps after handwashing with a paper towel and use another paper towel to open the main door after and discard that. However, you just have to touch your bedframe or chair etc and germs can be on that. You can't avoid germs completely and hopefully the cleaning will be done regularly and efficiently. What you mustn't do is touch wounds both to avoid infecting others and also bringing infection from other germs into your wounds.

Def agree with you there Pam xxxx

 

[Roch]

What about the toilet flusher and the taps? Do you wipe those before
flushing and turning off? I usually have some tissues that I use to do this. In reality you will get more contamination on those and the locks than the seat. At least your bottom is covered up afterwards...

Rebirth

Lol dont think we can win this battle x

 

[Lady_in_London]

Morning all. I just saw on breakfast tv that the NHS is launching a section on their website this morning, which will compare NHS hospitals, amongst which there will be a section on infection rates comparison between hospitals. Look on the main NHS site.
Right, got to get ready for my jury service. It beats working for a living!!!!

 

[Roch]

Morning all. I just saw on breakfast tv that the NHS is launching a section on their website this morning, which will compare NHS hospitals, amongst which there will be a section on infection rates comparison between hospitals. Look on the main NHS site.
Right, got to get ready for my jury service. It beats working for a living!!!!

Mornin Pam yes i saw that on gmtv this morning, will def have a look.
Forgot bout ur jury service is it day 2 for you today and how long will it be.
Def keep you busy with the crime rate in Haringey
Have a good day hun and take care xxx

 

[Lady_in_London]

Lol Roch - no - it's my second week and should be over on Thursday. Wish I could do a third week or more, because the daily pay doubles so I could make a profit, lol. It's been good, although getting through the pews is a bit of a squeeze! No good for my diet though. Sandwiches and crisps etc., plus choc on way home to ease stresses. I will be pleased to get back to work and normal routine. When at work and during weekday evenings it is so much easier to stick to diets. Away from work and at weekends it is one step forward and two back.

I so admire all of you for going down the wls route. I read somewhere on this site that someone was calling it an easy option. No way is it that. You are all extremely dedicated and may I say, very brave, to be going ahead with wls.

Hope to catch you at the weekend Roch, but if I am out, leave a message on callminder.

 

[phatmomma]

I understand about the worry of catching infections but i have to say that some of you seem obsessed with germs! That is not a criticism aimed at anyone, but i have to say my house is clean most the time (sometimes i have a weekend off) but there are times you can run a finger over a shelf and find dust. I don' obsess over this, i'm a firm believer in the fact that if we are too sterile we will face no germs to build an immunity too. None of my 3 children are asthmatic or have any health issues (apart from one with migraines inherited from me and nanny) and enjoy nothing more than playing out rolling round in the grass etc with friends... Just an opinion on todays uber sterile environment (oh yes and i hate public loos too, if i can avoid peeing i do, however after having 3 whopping kids my bladder is not what it used to be lol)

Love, health n happiness to you all

 

[Lady_in_London]

Hi Julie. I think the germs we may be infected with in hospital are more serious than day-to-day germs we come across when we are healthy.
Post-op your bodies are coping with a lot of healing and it is important to avoid germs, because an infection can get out of hand as immunity is lowered. More of a risk though is infection in wounds, but all medical and nursing staff take no risks when dealing with open wounds.

 

[phatmomma]

Hi Julie. I think the germs we may be infected with in hospital are more serious than day-to-day germs we come across when we are healthy.
Post-op your bodies are coping with a lot of healing and it is important to avoid germs, because an infection can get out of hand as immunity is lowered. More of a risk though is infection in wounds, but all medical and nursing staff take no risks when dealing with open wounds.

Yes i know that, i work on a hospital critical care unit that reports every month on any nastiness that has been caught on the ward or brought into the ward! Hospitals have to be so careful, they don't want us with infections which cause them to spend more money caring/treating us!

I'm just wondering when do you stop worrying about the germs? Will we be wiping everything down on the way to the loo? And then of course what about when we go for showers? Someone touched the buttons before us?

Personally my only concern will be making sure anyone medical who wants to touch me washes their hands with proper cleaner in the proper manner before they go near my open wounds... I highly recommend anyone been admitted to hospital to look for the hand washing guidelines, give it a go yourself following the guidelines and then watch the professionals. If your not happy with how they've done it ask them to do it again...

love n light x

 

[Postop]

I never sit on a public toilet seat without protection. Never. I either use the disposable seat covers or I cover the entire thing with toilet paper. I did it postop in the hospital, too.

 

[phatmomma]

I think by the time everyone has wiped everything in the vicinity of the bathroom the domestics are gonna have a cushy week lol....

Health n happiness xx

 

[Roch]

Yes i know that, i work on a hospital critical care unit that reports every month on any nastiness that has been caught on the ward or brought into the ward! Hospitals have to be so careful, they don't want us with infections which cause them to spend more money caring/treating us!

I'm just wondering when do you stop worrying about the germs? Will we be wiping everything down on the way to the loo? And then of course what about when we go for showers? Someone touched the buttons before us?

Personally my only concern will be making sure anyone medical who wants to touch me washes their hands with proper cleaner in the proper manner before they go near my open wounds... I highly recommend anyone been admitted to hospital to look for the hand washing guidelines, give it a go yourself following the guidelines and then watch the professionals. If your not happy with how they've done it ask them to do it again...

love n light x

I think ur def right bout when do we stop worrying bout germs, but after major surgery and u sit on a toilet seat and someone has some form of infection then it can easily be passed on to us, no matter how much they clean it wont stop u catching some nasty viral infection of the person who used the toilet b4 u and could have boils are anything else on their bum.
When it comes to showers i have always taken into hospital with me my own bathroom anti bac spray and never used a bath just the shower and always kept flip flops on.
I dont think that is over the top its just basic hygiene to make sure i am minimising the risk of extra infections that can easily be caught on a communal toilet.