Yet more negative press

[Retfordmag]

Elisha and Alarah von Haidenthaler's weight loss cost NHS £41k but now want skin removal op | The Sun |Woman

The Sun yet again on about the cost of weight loss surgery, but surely the cost of the op outweighs (pardon the pun) the cost of medication etc for the rest of their lives

 

[Bellydancer57]

Funny never any commentary on cost of anorexia or bulemia to nhs!

 

[Paula Garner]

I'd love to know where they get their costings from. Stories like this make me really mad !!!. What about all the drug and alcohol users that cost the NHS and benefits system thousands every year ?

 

[OOnion]

I think they both look great and are clearly a lot happy and healthier - however I don't think anyone "deserves" the right to surgery to remove excess skin, we all know that is one of the side effects of WLS and it was made clear to me at my first appt that it would not be removed on the NHS - I would have thought the daughter was young enough to still have the elasticity in her skin for it to tone back up with a bit of gym work?! They do like to blame the "gene" though don't they - come on ladies take some responsibility too!
x

 

[stuckinafatsuit]

Its the way the story has been written which is going to get peoples backs up, it makes them sound awful as though its there god given right for the taxpayers to fund their skin removal. I cant understand why they even agreed to let the sun publish their story, they were never going to put them in a good light!!

 

[chrisa]

It is just a piss take really, a lot of people are very biassed about bigger people and they don't realise that not all big people are lazy and lie around all day eating and drinking everything in sight. I have just read all the comments and some people make my blood boil, whats the point of tellingthem they just have an axe to grind, bet you any money some of them have been given money to buy a home, funding from parents bet there are some who get free prescriptions and live in the charity shop buying top brand goods for fraction of the price. they need to keep their nasty narrow minded opinions to themselves. xx

 

[stubad]

i have replied to this bullshit and i think more of us should, here is my reply:
you idiots with your negative comments are blind, most people that require nhs funded weight loss surgery have to go through strict scrutiny to get the surgery and need to meet the N.I.C.E guidelines for surgery, if you are accepted its because you have tried all other avenues and your body mass index is such that you would not be expected to survive the next 10 yrs at your current weight, you also have to have one of the relevant co-morbities, (diabetes type 2, or severe obstructive sleep apneoa), once they have met these guidelines, they meet with a multi disciplinary team, have to have regular psych evaluations, group sessions and they have to lose at least 5% of their total body weight. all in all this process can take anything up to 2 yrs and then is only offered if agreed by a proffessional board of medical specialists, after this you then have to apply for funding from you local pct, which is only offered if you have everything on the list ticked, no exceptions. In most cases people having this surgery have an addiction to food or some other mental connection to it, they are not lazy and ignorant and if there was any other way i'm sure they would take it. The money saved in medication and hospitalisation of overweight people, through diabetes, high blood pressure, hernias and so in is more than 5X the cost of the weight loss surgery, so your arguments are flawed, they are not wasting tax payers money, they are infact saving it. With regards to skin removal, that is only available for funding if they again meet strict criteria, being that they are some way impared medically by the extra skin, for example, skin condition, (psoriasis, echsama, ulcers etc.), reduced or no mobility and or severe mental health issues cause directly by the skin, (low self esteem, suicidal), so again people moan all you like, because they wouldnt get it if they didn't need it, it costs the nhs 5X less than the alternative and it is saving lives, 85% of weight loss surgery is paid for by the patient and performed privately. Sometime you should NOT belive everything you read in the papers

 

[chrisa]

Well said you, very true will have a nother look and c if i can add to your comment xx

 

[stubad]

Its the way the story has been written which is going to get peoples backs up, it makes them sound awful as though its there god given right for the taxpayers to fund their skin removal. I cant understand why they even agreed to let the sun publish their story, they were never going to put them in a good light!!

i dont think they were expecting that story, i reckon the headline is gonna shock them as much as us, there was a story on tv last night of britains fattest woman, the papers said she died through binge eating after sugery and that her family brought takeaways into hospital, we all know that a lie, she actullay lost 8st in 2 months, then became ill lost feeling in limbs and died 8 months later, she had lost 19st in 10 months and had actullay been starving herself to lose weight quicker, then died of malnutrition, but the sun printed the shock headline " britains fattest woman eats herself to death in hospital", which of course was a total lie, the comments from people on this latest article are sickeneing hence my lengthy response.


UP THE FATTIES

 

[stubad]

they keep taking my comment off their site, so i keep putting it back on lol

 

[Ruthiep]

Stubad: maybe if you didn't preface it with "you idiots" they wouldn't keep taking it off. Sometimes you can say exactly the same thing and as forcefully, without being abusive, and it gets the point across just as well.

 

[chrisa]

yeah i went had nutha look but your comment wasn't on they are sly aren't they only put on what suits them xx

 

[stubad]

i did change the you idiot bit, but they have removed it 6 times now, it seems they dont want the truth just the slander

 

[Retfordmag]

Sums them up

 

[stuckinafatsuit]

They also removed mine.


Kim

 

[Jamast]

Well, with all due respect, what do you expect to read in 'The Sun'? Absolute waste of paper and ink. They are NEVER going to present a balanced view of anything as they cater to the lowest common denominator. You wil never educate anyone who doesn't want to learn.

 

[stuckinafatsuit]

I suppose it could be of use if youv'e run out of bog roll and the shops are shut :jelous:

 

[Bellydancer57]

I am also a taxpayer, infact lucky to have had agreat salaried job, payingin excess of 3000 pounds amonth tax forover30 years. This is my first call on the nhs. Also neverhad kids ordrawn any benefits so abit disappoined to be accussed of wasting taxpayers money.

 

[Paula Garner]

I am also a taxpayer, infact lucky to have had agreat salaried job, payingin excess of 3000 pounds amonth tax forover30 years. This is my first call on the nhs. Also neverhad kids ordrawn any benefits so abit disappoined to be accussed of wasting taxpayers money.

Well said !! Same for me except for the great salary and tax bit lol. Although I have worked full time since leaving college.

 

[Muttley1900]

Well, with all due respect, what do you expect to read in 'The Sun'? Absolute waste of paper and ink.

So very true. I refuse to have it in my home.