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Alice's Story

Alice

Loser :)
Hi guys!

Well, I'm finally feeling human again so back on here at last!

I'm sorry I've not been very active on here the last few days - I've been feeling absolutely awful since my op and sitting up at the PC was a definite no-no. I've been checking the posts on here and keeping up with everyone's stories on my iPhone, but it's too fiddly to type much with it.

So, my surgery went well - all routine and normal. I was really let down by the nurses at the hospital and didn't get any support immediately following the op. They discharged me at 5.45am the following morning (!!) so they could clean the room ready for the next patient. I was still in bed, in my gown, had not been out of bed yet since the op, and I had to get myself up to the loo, brush my teeth, get dressed (wow that was hard on my own - couldn't reach to pull my knickers up!) and pack my bag - all on my own! I was in floods of tears by the end of it!! I've just finished writing a letter of complaint about it actually! (there were a few other things that were also really bad but I won't drone on about them here!)

The surgeon who put the band in said it was a very tight fit and I should expect good restriction from the start, and that the swelling might make it unpleasant for the first few days. He wasn't wrong! At first, I couldn't even sip water... Over the last few days, the swelling has eased and I can now sip water and soup without feeling dreadful.

I really struggled with the pain for a few days. I didn't know how to get pain killers into me. I couldn't take calpol because I couldn't get that much liquid down my throat!! I couldn't take soluble paracetamol because it was fizzy and oh my god the pain from that when I first tried it!!! And I tried crushing normal tablets and putting it in yoghurt but I got full before I had enough.

Thank goodness, I don't need painkillers now - I am finally comfy!!

I was really struggling with sleep for the first few days. Lying on my back was only ok for a couple of hours and then I would need to change position. I took Neen's advice (thanks Neen!) and put a big sofa cushion under my pillow and the last two nights, I've slept propped up: Much better! I actually slept till 10am today! Yippeeee!

I had a scary time on Monday morning. I got up at 4am to go sleep on the sofa for a change of position (this was before the sofa pillow in bed plan), and when I stood up, I felt like I couldn't breathe - was really scary! Eventually sorted myself out with some very painful coughing and went to sleep downstairs. When I woke up again a few hours later, the same thing - I felt like I could only breathe with the top fifth of my lungs. It passed after a while but it was really freaking me out! I have a friend who is a paramedic and who lives with an ITU nurse, so I texted them and I also texted Livvy to find out if this was normal - I was scared I was having a PE or an asthma attack or something! They all texted back saying it was probably due to a bruised diaphragm.... I've never been so relieved in all my life! I still get it a little bit now - it's always when I get up from lying flat - but it's much better on the whole.

The worst moment for me was the ice cream incident. I was told I should be getting 1200 calories a day while on the liquid diet. The first few days, I was only managing about 400 - 500 so my friend suggested I had a bit of soft ice cream to boost the calories. I thought this was a great idea, so she went out and bought me Green & Blacks white chocolate and raspberry ice cream, let it melt so it was almost runny, added some toffee sauce (for extra calories) and then I ate it. It was like the stuff of the gods. Oh my goodness it was delicious. But half an hour later, I felt more ill than I ever have done! Sweating, shaking, really nauseous, dreadful wind pain, and then about 3 episodes of explosive diarrhoea!! I guess it's like Dumping syndrome but I didn't think you got that with the Band.

Anyway, at least that's put me off ice cream for life!! Never again..... If anyone wants a tub of Green & Blacks with a tiny bit gone from the top, you're welcome to it!! lol

So, now I tend to have a slimfast shake for breakfast (it takes me all morning to drink it lol) and then a yoghurt for lunch and half a mug of soup for my dinner. And I have to force feed myself all that! Wow it's like nothing I've ever experienced in my whole life!! I remember reading the diet sheet when I received it and wondering how on earth I was going to cope on liquids only for two whole weeks... I was so worried! And here I am feeling totally stuffed when I am half way through my slimfast shake! (btw - the slimfast shakes: yummy - the slimfast smoothies: eeeewwwww)

So now the next challenge is when to go back to work. I'm a midwife and I work in a birthing centre that specialises in natural birth and waterbirth. So I spend my life crawling around the floor and leaning over birthing pools.... I've booked a shift for Tuesday but maybe it will be too soon to be really physically active. I think I'll wait till Sunday and then make a decision about that.

Anyway, thank you everyone for all your support and advice - it's made all the difference in the world! And thank you especially Livvy who doesn't seem to mind when I text her asking if things are normal lol

Take care losers :)

Alice xx
 
Oh Lordy Alice!! What an ordeal, you poor love. I hope something is done about the hospital thing, I'm so sorry that you had that extra pain and worry to go through. In spite of all that you seem so positive ! I'm so glad you're over that really difficult part. I would not work just yet hunny, Its like I've said, personally, when I felt OKish I was doing stuff around the house feeling allright at the time...later on OMG I thought I was going to have to get Dean to ring for an ambulance. You dont want to strain things too early and regret it. At least one more week...especially as you had additional discomfort with what you experienced.
I had aspro clear and let it go flat, that worked ok, and I wish I'd known about gripe water being good for the shoulder pain...mine was awful. Its horrible when you stand up straight and it feels like all your inner workings are tumbling to your knees lol.
My first shower when I got back was really uncomfortable but heaven! I felt human again!
I'm glad to hear you are getting sleep, thats what I did after I got home, first couple days I slept on and off day and night, then about the 3rd day got up and went down stairs to lay on the sofa...its hard to motivate yourself to get up and walk around when you know damn well its gonna hurt though!
I had the runs but wasnt sick (could all change when I get my fill mind you) I was glad I had the fibre stuff...you know you dont want to be running to the loo in that condition!
I asked at the hospital I went to if I could use slimfast shakes as I thought it would be a good meal with all the vits etc but I was told not to, I got given yogurt (tasted like vinegar..you know sharp and thin..makes you pull a face) and tomato soup (best thing I ever tasted at that point) the day after my op..just after I had water...was just glad to get the drip out!
You are almost out of the worst bit, once you feel more normal it gets better fast, and you get the energy boost...I certainly felt it!
Take it easy and dont guilt yourself into doing more than a little pottering about each day. Your health is paramount x Love Neen x
 
You had a rough old time of it Alice:hug99:

I hope you make a speedy recovery and best of luck with your weight loss.

Love Mini xxx
 
Glad you are finally feeling better Alice - sounds like you had a tough time of it! Great to read your story - make sure you continue to get enough rest and just take it slowly - it has not even been a week post op yet so don't put too much pressure on yourself, tis still early days.
I have been avoiding food - am sticking to smoothies, fruit juice, squash, tea and coffee at the moment still but is only day 4 post op for me - might be brave and try soup later. Keep posting to let us know how you are doing xxxx
 
Lovely to see you posting again Alice, welcome back :)

Sounds like a rough time of it, hope your complaint has some success.
 
Hi everyone!

Well I'm not very good at the diary thing am I? lol I'm too busy reading everyone else's posts to bother writing about me... Also, I've been having dreadful problems with my broadband connection for the last week... Just when I really needed it to keep me occupied, it keeps on dropping out randomly! Blimming BT!

I am so much better now. It will be two weeks on Saturday since I had my band fitted. I am now able to wear my jeans comfortably, although I'm still wearing highly unattractive non-wired bra's because my scars are so close to my bra-line and I'm scared that it might be uncomfortable to wear underwired ones just yet.

I hardly have any pain now. Occasionally I get discomfort - if I am in an awkward position or when I bend to pick something up off the floor but I wouldn't call it pain and I haven't taken any painkillers for about a week! My scars are all healing well. I have two tiiiiiiny ones, two that are about 2cm long, and one that's about 5-6cm long. The bruising has gone down a lot and is just a bit yellow now.

Sleeping is fine now. I can sleep well on my back and on my left side. I can lie on my right side as long as I am gentle when I turn onto that side and position myself right. I still sleep a LOT - I think because I am still tired from lack of calories and being on a liquid diet for the last 3 weeks.

Eating is interesting... The last couple of days have seen me hungry quite a lot. I'm having a slimfast for breakfast, a mug of soup for lunch and another for dinner, with a yoghurt (sometimes two) for snacks during the day. But I want to eat more than that. I hope it's just that the swelling has gone down and I am getting ready to wean onto food with more texture and bulk. I get the usual moments of paranoia where I think the band must have slipped or pinged open or something, but I definitely do feel restriction! Tonight, I had a bit of a strop. I had such massive head hunger and John is on business in Amsterdam, and I just decided to be a rebel! I have a big pan of lovely chunky home made minestrone in the kitchen and I've been taking about 300ml at a time and blending it for my meals. This evening, I took about 500ml and ate it without blending it!! I chewed it well and thank goodness I don't think I've done any damage - and I feel properly stuffed! I was worrying afterwards that the band can't be working properly if I'm able to do that - but really, 500ml of soup is still muuuuuuch less than I could put away before in order to feel as stuffed as I do now!!

I think I just have to take it easy with the food and try not to eat like that all the time, and wait for my first band fill before I get really great restriction. I guess I was hoping I'd have similar restriction to how I felt immediately after the op, but that was just because of the swelling...

And my next milestone? Tomorrow I am going to shave my legs!! :) I last did them on the morning of the operation (yes, a whole 12 days ago) and I tell you they are seeeeeeriously hairy now!! I just haven't been able to face bending down that much in the shower. But now it is becoming almost a state of national emergency, so tomorrow I am bringing in the big guns and am going to hack through the undergrowth and have lovely smooth legs again! Yay.

Well, if you are still reading this, you must have been seriously bored :)

Alice xxx
 
Lol Alice!!! I am back in jeans now too and for me underwired bras have been fine so try it out and see how you go!! I had to laugh at the jungle legs though - mine are the same and will be staying that way as I can't face hacking them yet. I am also desperate to paint my toenails but can't quite feel like bending to do that either!!!
You sound like you are doing just fine with the eating - it is only natural that now the swelling has gone down that you can eat more than straight after the op! And, compare the quantities you are having now to a typical pre-op day and you will find that you are still well on the straight and narrow! Keep it up chick and let us know how the mission to rediscover smooth leggies goes!!
 
Ha ha Oh Alice ha ha ha love your diary !! Your sound like your doing so well !! Yeah don't worry about the restriction i was like that and now i can eat so much better! Last night i had half a sausage, Mash, Mushy peas and gravy ..........was so lush !! You will get hungry, thats normal and when you eat it won't fill u up like before but once were filled i've been told we'll feel that restrition again . might take a couple of fills to get maximum restriction too. So glad your ok and upbeat !! My legs looked like a wooley mamoth a few days ago ha ha ...know the feeling! and i did try in the shower to bend over before and do my legs but nearly knocked myself out on the glass ...ouch ! But can bend over fully now....someone else in my household is quite pleased too !! ooh er !! ha ha !! Well done anyway and look forward to reading your future posts ...so funny !! ha ha xxx
 
Well I just had a very bad experience! Today is my first day of mushy food diet (been on soups and yoghurts since the op). I had runny porridge for breakfast which went down a treat. For lunch, I put a spoonful of cottage cheese, a spoonful of cous-cous salad and some mushed up avocado on a plate. I had about 4 forkfulls and then felt absolutely awful: pain in my stomach and like I was going to be sick. Rushed to the loo and heaved a bit but wasn't actually sick.

Later, I was discussing with my friend what had happened and she said she thought it was the cous-cous... So to test the theory, I ate some cottage cheese... And was violently sick! It's the first time I've been sick since the operation. Not fun!! So I guess the next few days will be trial and error, working out what I can and can't eat. It's strange the way everyone is different - I know livvy can eat cottage cheese (in fact, that's why I thought it was a safe choice for my first day!!

Anyway, I guess the good thing is that at least my band is working!! I was worried because I've been so hungry the last few days and I was able to eat as much soup as I wanted!

Alice xxx
 
Oh, so sorry to hear you were sick... :(

I had the same a few days ago - had some mash with broccoli/cauliflower that wasn't quite mashed enough, and hey ho!!!

I agree with your comment about trial and error - I do think there are basics that apply to most of us, but were are all different and what works for one might not work for another.

Wishing you a speedy road to weightloss and I also really hope that those useless :airquote: nurses :airquote: (and from their behaviour, I use the term loosely!) get pulled up big time.

Take care

x
 
Hi Alice. Sorry to hear about your bad cottage cheese experience! I am still sticking mainly to yoghurt, soups etc until I go for a 2 week check up on Monday, but for the last couple of days I have had a few spoons of mashed up crabmeat for protein on the advice of my nurse specialist. Yesterday it went down fine, but today all afternoon I have felt like my tummy is going to drop out of my feet - soo heavy and bloated and really uncomfy. I worry I have eaten too much at times (yet know this is unlikely at this early stage) and also about eating too fast as well, but then for me old habits die hard and I am going to really have to think about slowing down.
I guess what i am trying to say is that there is an element of trial and error for us all -we have to adjust to such a big change in eating habts and you sound like you are doing just fine!! Keep up the good work xx
 
Hi Alice, was just reading your post on Ali's thread, sorry to hear you've been moby dick. Like we all say everyone deals with things differently so it might be you have to stay on those liquids just that tad longer....got a life time with the band so don;t rush it eat what u can to stay hydrated and gives u energy and try again in a week. I have days when i feel so bloated and i know i've maybe just eaten that spoon too much. Not very sickly but listen to your body. As for work i can honestly say i don't know how u did it. Its only today i feel totally normal running around bending down etc. if you can take the time to try and rest ( i know its a bit hard with a baby popping out !) but your health is important. Your doing well tho!! Stay positive and all will come together in the end :) all us banders are doing fine ...YAY !!!! xxxxxxx
 
Hello!

Well I am a bit peeved this evening. I went to see my GP (my BP was fine thank goodness) and she told me that the NHS bariatric dieticians have refused to see me because I had my op privately!! Last week I wrote to them via the GP and said that my private package ends 6 weeks after the op, and that as I would have qualified for the whole thing on the NHS, please could I have some dietetic support. I can't believe they said no!! Of course, they are happy to see me if I pay £150 per visit! So the next step is for me to write to the PCT. This is the whole reason I went private in the first place : to avoid all this faffing around! I am so annoyed! I pay my taxes and I saved them £5k by not asking them to pay for the op itself!

Anyway, on a brighter note, I am so much better than yesterday. I've not been sick at all today and I even did a small workout. I've decided to take this week off work because of what happened yesterday so I feel pleased with that.

So the next step is my x-ray on Thursday.

Alice xx
 
Hi Alice glad your feeling better !! Oh how annoying is that about the dietician !! Yeah write a letter to the PCT and explain it all because at the end of the day they are just using the Private Op as an excuse !! You are entitled to NHS support i'm sure !! Keep fighting youv'e done so well already don't let them get u down ....i know you don't want to faff about but a few stern letters in the post will jog that along i hope for you. Always here for advice and any info i can get u from my nurse of course. Will only cost u £140 from me ....ha ha only kiding. Just ask anything when ever u like . Keep your chin up and well done on the exercise !! Feels good eh !! xxx
 
Glad you are feeling better Alice, and well done on the exercise!! I think you are right to take the rest of the week off work, maybe it was a little too much too soon!! Keep persevering with the PCT and make sure you send any letters recorded delivery, that way they cannot deny having received them!! Good luck x
 
Thanks girls...

Livvy, I'll pay you for your advice with an all-you-can-eat buffet (hahaha). No, seriously, thanks for that - I will deffo ask! I have a personal trainer who is a nutritionist so I can get general advice from her... It's more that I am scared I won't know when to go get fills etc...

Ali, good idea about recorded delivery - thanks!

Alice xxx
 
Sorry to hear about your hassle with the NHS, Alice... I really hope you get some support from them.

And well done on the exercise!!! I am trying to drag myself out a bit more, but it's so hard when you feel tired all the time!!!

Well done, you!!! :D

x
 
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